Will white south africans create its own country ?

I got few of my South African neighbours ,and they told me that South Africa economy and whole country is going down ,and within 10-15 years South Africa will be the second Zimbabwe .

I was told that every white family got the wired fence around their yard ,and that you can not walk alone longer distance because of crime .I read this

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/579424/Europe-overrun-white-South-Africans-right-to-return

So its very interesting .Is it possible to live as a tourist in SA without the car in Cape Town or Durban ?

I know that after Apartheid ,everything started to go onto the opposite side ,and white people has less chance to get the job ,and they are more attacked in the streets ,mugged .

Is any chance that white south africans will built its own country ,for example Orania would become African Singapore ,a country inside the country ,like Lesotho or Swaziland ,which is unofficialy bandustans .

Is crime in SA are on pair with Venezuela ,or Honduras .Is SA living costs on pair with central america countries or more expensive .?

How is Namibia ,Botswana compare with South Africa in costs,safety for white european man ,like myself ?

So its very interesting .Is it possible to live as a tourist in SA without the car in Cape Town or Durban ?
-- Yes. There's this thing called Uber...

I know that after Apartheid ,everything started to go onto the opposite side ,and white people has less chance to get the job ,and they are more attacked in the streets ,mugged .
-- Yes, it's called equality. When an entire government that is designed to keep 20% of its population safe rich and isolated gets replaced at the expense of the other 80% gets replaced, statistically that 20% will be negatively affect as the imbalance slowly rights (lefts?) itself.

Is any chance that white south africans will built its own country ,for example Orania would become African Singapore ,a country inside the country ,like Lesotho or Swaziland ,which is unofficialy bandustans .
-- No, not possible and Lesotho and Swaziland are separate countries, not batustans or even close to that. Anyway most South Africans who'd want this "country" have been become expats somewhere else.

Is crime in SA are on pair with Venezuela ,or Honduras .Is SA living costs on pair with central america countries or more expensive .?
-- Cheaper than Costa Rica/Panama, more expensive than Nicaragua. Haven't been to the places you mention but South Africa does have a lot of crime.

How is Namibia ,Botswana compare with South Africa in costs,safety for white european man ,like myself ?
-- Visiting these countries be fatal to a narrow minded viewpoint - expect dangerous levels of beauty and friendliness.

South Africa is a beautiful, strange and complicated placed. It has a huge variety in its places, people, languages and culture. This is probably not the forum for many of the complexities you have questions about. I recommend discussing them around a braai as you travel around the country.

Great answer ghalied :-) I agree, this is an extremely complicated subject and the media and some expats tend to sensationalize the subject and create a skewed impression of crime and how bad things are. As a white Souh African I can tell you that I wouldn't want to have my own country in South Africa. Yes, there are still a lot of problems and challenges but we've come a long way and it is still a great place to live. It's not only white families that have fences, sadly crime affects everyone but there are ways to reduce your risk of becoming a victim.

To put things into perspective a bit: I was a lot more scared walking around alone in London and Paris a few years ago than I've ever been in South Africa. I've also been more scared in South America, I haven't been to Honduras and Venezuela but from what I've heard that is a lot worse than SA. I was scared in Europe this past December, soldiers with guns walking around everywhere and would likely not go back for a while unfortunately because of safety concerns.

My neighbour told me that it would be imposible to walk few hundred yards to the nearest petrol station after 20.00 without car ,as i would be mugged .He said that about Johanesburg .Durban ,Cape Town

Yes ,Uber is like Taxi ,but what about public transport ,or minibuses ,or even walking for 2 km lets say at 2 am in Cape Town .London is not that bad , even Peckham ,Clapham Junction .

I am talking about public buses ,or walking alone at 2-3 am at night in South African cities .

Yes, I would say it's unsafe to walk around the cities between 2am and 3am at night. It would be best to use taxis and not public transport. Besides being a safety issue, its a cultural thing too - South Africans tend to use cars to move around. Public transport is very limited at night.

Here's a site to welcome your neighbour into the new millennium: http://www.sagoodnews.co.za/ - and give him a big hug - seems like he needs it. Bah humbug.

When you go on holiday to South Africa you sometimes meet white south africans that are extremely scared, and paranoid. I'm not saying they don't have reason to be, as there is a lot of violent crime in South Africa, but it isn't aimed at white people specifically. A book I read recently about crime in Cape Town mentioned that most of the violent crimes occur in a few police districts, and these are in the very poor areas where you'll find very few white people. So white people shouldn't feel targeted in general. However, there is a lot a controversy about the so called farmer murders, and if they are motivated by racism, but there doesn't seem to be a good answer to that yet.

When it comes to fences, it's about protecting property, as money and big houses will attract burglars. Again, not about the colour of someone's skin. But when a lucky (?)few are so rich, and so many live in poverty there's bound to be a lot of burglary, mugging etc.

I wouldn't walk alone after dark in South Africa. Why? Because locals always tells us not to. I have walked short distances in Cape Town after dark, and haven't felt scared. We don't drive after dark either, but often take a taxi while in Cape Town. Easy and cheap.

When apartheid ended they had to do something to even out the massive disadvantage that non-white south africans had to live with for so many years. Did it turn out perfectly? No, there's still a long way to go. And yes, it's harder for white people to get jobs than before, but if you look at most townships they're not filled with white people. So it's not like all the white went bankrupt and all the black and coloured are now living in luxury.

Botswana is probably the safest country in Africa when it comes to crime, and I don't think Namibia is that far behind. Both are beautiful countries with friendly people.

I'm trying to say this is in the nicest way possible, but white males aren't usually the victims of the world we're living in. I'm not saying you can't fall prey to someone's bad intentions, but in general you guys aren't the ones getting mugged, killed or raped.

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