Overland trip with African Trails

Hi

My husband and I are about to book an overland trip with African Trails from Vic Falls to Capetown through Botswana and Namibia. The trip sounds really good and is a good price but just wondering if anyone has any experience of this company and could reccommend them? There are so many offering similar trips it is hard to decide on one!

Thanks in advance for any comments

The overland group that I saw several times in March was with GAP Adventures. I also saw several others, but I don't remember the name of the groups. Usually, their tour buses are double-decker (large storage area below) with seats that recline for sleeping, so people stay on the motorcoach full-time with the same people full-time, as on a multi-day train trip. Most of the passengers seemed to be enjoying their trips. The cooking equipment and table and chairs are stored underneath. I don't know the condition of the roads, but the motorcoaches that I saw were very modern and should be able to handle rough gravel roads well enough. The Serengeti Plains and Ngorongoro Crater, where I saw the GAP Adventures and another overland tour bus, did not have asphalt roads. The highway from Arusha to Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, was excellent asphalt and smooth riding.

Double-decker is not an accurate description of most overland trucks, though they do have storage beneath the seats. Camping in tents is typical, and there are only a few operations where you sleep on the truck, sometimes on top of the truck. The weirdest set-up I ever saw was a German bus in West Africa where the passengers slept in little coffin-like cubicles. I tried to find a photo of this to share, but to no avail.

African Trails would not be my pick for an overland company. To begin, the trucks have vinyl windows, which quickly become scratched and foggy. (Not to mention that they are easy to slash, and therefore a security issue.) A truck with glass windows is much preferable.

Given that you are married, and might not want a total party truck, I might look at the more high-end overland companies such as Dragoman, African Travel Company, or Intrepid.

Hope this helps,

BB

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about the african trails comp we are just back from a overland trip with them and next time will defenatly choose a other comp the trucks are filty as we had rats living in it ( we had a different idea of wild live)
The ( experience ) driver was only 4 month on the job and didn't really now anyting about africa
We saw better trucks as mention DRAGO , TUCAN, NOMAD
dont look just for the price look wat is incl also and wat is not and compare wit the other comp

hope to help you with this
best of luck

Speaking of Intrepid, I met one of their tour leaders during my train trip between Marrakech and Casablanca, and he told us how competitive the interviewing and application process is that Intrepid gives its prospective employees. He is a very enthusiastic leader and really loves Morocco, but also maintains a flat in London for his time off. He says that he has the best of both worlds. Will is the only nonnative Intrepid tour leader out of Marrakech.

As # 2 said, experienced trip leaders make all the difference. I would take a second-rate truck with a great trip leader over a state-of-the-art truck with a newbie any day.

vinkel makes another great point in that you need to compare apples to apples. Some tour prices include a lot more things than others do. What appears to be a bargain, on face, might not be.

Interesting, trekker 502. Intrepid bought out Guerba, which was a really good operation. In general, I think western tour leaders are best, because they understand the group dynamics of their clients better. Don't get me wrong--local or native guides can be great at being guides. Sounds like Will has a pretty good life.

I have to agree with the above. From what I've seen of the AT trucks on the road they were very much rock bottom budget party trucks.

I've travelled twice with Africa Travel Co and would highly recommend them. Dragoman, Intrepid (ex-Guerba) and Acacia seem to be good too.

BigBri - the German set up is called Rotel.

http://www.rotel.de/rotel-tours/de/rhotel.php

Thanks onlyMark. (I threw in an extra syllable and was looking for Rohotel.)

I got a laugh again when I looked at their webpage.

Your welcome.
They have been likened to coffin ships but seem to be comfortable enough and popular.
What ever floats your boat I suppose.

Just in case the OP is still checking, you can search my ID and find numerous responses with my negative African Trails experience. In case you're still considering them, I would highly recommend a short committment to which you can add time. This way if you do have the crap driver or party truck, you only have a little money as a sunk cost and you can bail out!

Promoting Acacia with a handle of "acaciawildbunch" is a bit of a giveaway, isn't it?
And you've only three posts all doing the same thing.

Mark - what happened to: www.overlanding-101.com?

When you get the address right it's still there!!!
http://overlanding101.com/

I never bother updating it though, there's no real need to change it, it's just dormant in a way.

Better change the link in your profile then:

onlymark

Anyway, how you doing?

Ok then - when I get the address right it's still there!!!
Don't know how that happened. Well spotted. I can't say I've been in to my profile for many a year, I wonder if it got changed with all the TT problems there's been.
Anyway, all is fine and dandy, still living in Cairo and maybe, fingers crossed, after another couple of years move to Syria. We'll see.
I presume you still have that thing that looks like a zebra on steroids?

Yes - still got it although it's currently off road awaiting a new cylinder head.

What are you doing in Cairo? Working, Studying?

I am a house husband being fed and watered by an obliging wife who is working here in development.
I spend my time sunbathing, swimming and the occasional heckling from the back on the TT.

Oh yeah, and three kids to look after.

Did that for 3 years in Kenya - gave me loads of time to buy and sell 4x4s, and go on lots of safaris! Wife was with Practical Action then - who's your wife with?

Pm'd

Pm's seem to be tits up, I'll try again later.

Found the problem.

Maybe sorted your end however nothing at mine - have dug around (!) and changed some settings so pls say again.

Done, you should have it.

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