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fishermen who set out in small colorful boats

Country forums / Western Europe / Portugal

I want to photograph some fishermen who still go out in small boats...preferably colorful ones.
also small farm villages where oxen are used
Old ladies making lace

Other scenes of this nature.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance

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The most obvious would be to get off the beaten track, and i really mean to get off it to the less know and trodden tracks in area's that are largely unchanged by tourists and modern inventions.

Regions of Turkey that have survived the tourist trade, the Black Sea region that still use fishing methods handed down from father to son and out of the way places in the country in the Balkans, these places seem to be the best place in Europe to see how we used to live.

That region that is called 'Underdeveloped' is perhaps the best place to see how we used to live, and still has for us some rustic charm.

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Taking sfgirl's advice in a slightly different direction, I googled "Burano boats photos" and "Burano lack makers photos" and found some that seem promising.

Burano is an island in the Venetian lagoon, a short waterbus ride from Venice.

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I know that in CamariƱas, on the W-coast of Spain, ladies sit in the streets to make their lace-products. The ladies are old as well as young. The things #2 mentions will require you to have a car, because it will be almost impossible to reach these areas by public tranportation.

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I'd have thought that, these days, the best place to find colorful fishing boats and old ladies making lace is at a center of tourism. Both subjects are much sought-after 'quaint' attractions.

I once saw from a train window an ox hauling a cart somewhere on the outskirts of Amarante (east of Porto).

Not in Portugal, but might be relevant: I was in Thailand and commented to someone that all the farmers were using mechanical plows. "Buffalo too slow," replied the person I was with. "You want Thai buffalo, go to restaurant."

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I think MizMary thought she needed some romantics when she wrote her post. I don't think the world works like that anymore as BthDth points out. BTW I laughed when I read the comment of the Tailandese: Buffaloo to slow. Go the restaurant if you want Thai buffelo!!

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I do think that there are parts of the world that do things like they did in the past, these places may be harder to find as time wears on, but they are still around if you look hard enough and you may have to travel further afield to find them.

If you only follow the tourist hordes you no doubt will see sights set up for them, as i advised you need to get well off the well trod tourist paths if you want to see sights from a earlier, far more simpler time, they are still around but harder to find.

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Burano is a good bet for this.

Generally my experience is these quaint, simpler times style settings are only preserved only as tourist attractions. That's not a coincidence. These old ways have been left behind (for better or worse) for a reason: new ways make life better, at least in the short term. Mechanization, outsourcing, etc. allows people to build a better standard of living if their goal is actually growing food or to sell lace. When someone decides to stick to ox farming or sitting on their front stoop stitching, the only reason is for the tourists. On their own, those old ways can't provide the same quality of life that you get by switching to a machine.

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So we are told that there is nobody, absolutely nobody anywhere that uses hand made woven products on their own family table.

And we are also told that you also use animals on your farm, including an ox for tilling the soil, and it seems that one poster thinks that you do it for the only for tourists?

Of course it it easier by machine, and of course nobody is saying any different, to till a field it is far easier and quicker to use a tractor, and in sewing of course it would be the same by using a sewing machine.

But in this modern world, there are still people who do things the same way for hundreds of years and do not change, for what ever reason i do not know, they may be dirt poor, live in backward and isolated places, be backward thinking themselfs, see that there is no reason to change, for whatever reason they do things very nearly the same way their forbears did, and some of them have may have never seen a tourist.

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As far as the lacemaking in CamariƱas is concerned, I feel that it is partly for the tourists (BTW almost exclusively Spanish), but that the fact that you can see how what you get is being made, has increased the prices. Maybe to a level that the handywork still allows the maker a decent life.

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Yes exactly, and note that you state that it is 'Partly for the tourists'........................I think you have nailed it.

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Thank you to everyone who answered. I appreciate the time you spent googling for me and also just for writing.

I'm thinking that Portugal is not the destination for me. Romania and perhaps other eastern European countries will provide me with more opportunities for photography...but I so wanted to eat baccala and those little custard filled cakes.

In case you, too, seek the past to photograph:

Buffalo carts are in use every day in Burma and in India.

Colorful fishing boats can be found on the coast of Togo.

Needlework..almost everywhere.

I just wanted to photograph Europe for a change.

Thanks to all of you!
Miz Mary

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