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2 e-visas at the same time?Country forums / Indian Subcontinent | ||
To start, a confession, we messed up. When we entered India we knew we had a 60 day double entry e-visa which it says is not extendable. We also knew that the tour we would be on in the last part of our trip would leave India on the 16th October. Now the problem. | ||
You are not permitted to possess two valid visas of the same type at the same time. Your first e-visa would have to be cancelled but I don't know how you would go about doing that. I'd like to think the second application would automatically do this for you but this is India..... The immigration officer you spoke to however was not wrong. As long as you clear immigration on the evening of the 15th before midnight, you can stay in the departures area until your flight leaves on the 16th. Clearing immigration is the key rather than physically leaving Indian soil. | 1 | |
Thanks for the reply. I should have mentioned that we are leaving via the land border close to varanasi and not via an airport. Anyone have any thoughts on how we get our visa cancelled? Can we do this at the airport on route to Sri Lanka? | 2 | |
As per the advice from friendly_checkingirl - you cannot hold two substantive visas simultaneously. When you are granted the second eTV, the first will automatically be cancelled.
So, instead of getting a second visa, leave a day early. | 3 | |
Yeah thats my thoughts but we are on a tour and our land transport across the border is with the tour. | 4 | |
Thanks lifesupport. Is there any chance our application for the second visa would be declined as we already have a valid visa? | 5 | |
My opinion is "no chance" of being declined for that reason. I'm also of the opinion that the Indian "Immigration, Visa Foreigners’ Registration and Tracking" (IVFRT) system is not that sophisticated. | 6 | |
Well checks are certainly made, if only to ensure that no more than 2 e-visas are granted per year. I'm not so sure as to what would happen when a valid visa is found to be already active. | 7 | |
Yeah I don't think it's sophisticated either but what about the immigration guard that sees a stamp in my passport for a visa that hasn't expired? | 8 | |
I think you're worrying unnecessarily. Once you've been issued the visa, the fact that you have a valid visa in your passport means nothing. You have every legitimate reason to get a new visa - because you plan to stay beyond the expiry date of the existing visa. You had to apply for the new visa in SL because you can't apply for it whilst in India. And if you are travelling in a tour group, you will have oodles of documentation which proves your intention to leave the country. "Whataboutery" won't help you. | 9 | |
You make an excellent point! | 10 | |
Isn't this whataboutery? No one can predict your circumstances. I would like to think that exiting at a land border, with a tour group all doing their paperwork at the same time, might work in your favour. If you were flying solo (literally and figuratively) you would not be able to leave the country. There would be a red EV (expired visa) stamped into your passport and you would have to obtain an Exit Visa from the Bureau of Immigration / Foreigners' Regional Registration Office. The next problem will be finding a hotel to take you as a guest. Each foreigner stay means the hotel lodges a Form C with the BOI; and legally, they should not provide accommodation to someone on an expired visa. Then the fun of getting a Tourist Visa Overstay Exit begins. You'll need to provide a detailed written explanation of your overstay; you'll need to get those Form Cs from the places you have stayed as well as a separate declation of the dates of your lodging; you'll need more passport photos taken; and you'll need a Police Clearance Certificate. Lots of finger printing, lots of paperwork. That's a week's worth of Indian bureaucracy right there. Once you have all of that together, then the BOI might issue your exit visa; subject to paying a fine (the size of which will be insignificant to the heartache you've just been through). EDIT: And, I think you can assume there will be a very dim view of any future visa application. | 11 | |
Loved #11. It shows you why you don't chance it although I know of a case like this where without a comment... It all depends on the officer:0. One lass left 2 hours late and was put into detention 24 hours and deported. Don't know about lasting visa status impact. I'm too old to gamble anymore.. | 12 | |
Yeah that hammers it home as to why we won't be taking a chance! For a final bit of whataboutery, do you think we would have a chance if getting the visa extended at a FRRO? I know there's an e-frro now but I doubt that will let me extend a visa that is not extendable. A person might? | 13 | |
Almost none. You would have to provide documented evidence of why you need the extension, and I rather fancy that "we messed up" won't cut it. You'd need a documented illness that prevented leaving on schedule; or a documented flight or sail delay which prevented you leaving on time. If you are on a tour schedule, I can't imagine that you are going to have a week or so to spare, two weeks in advance of departure, to build a case. | 14 | |
Understood. Thanks again for all your help really appreciate the insights. | 15 | |
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