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A recent thread on another branch prompted me to think about this issue of staying with family or friends when travelling. A lot of people see this as a way to 'travel on a shoestring'.

I have had the good fortune (and misfortune) to have lived in several places in the world that are considered attractive places to visit by many people. Because of that, I have had quite a few family and friends visit me in those places.

I also often read threads here on the TT where someone says something like, 'I can stay with family in X and that will help stretch my budget' etc.

I think it is important to think about what this means from both sides of the coin. As a traveller, I have visited family and friends in other countries from time to time but I have rarely stayed in their homes. Primarily because I prefer my privacy. As a resident of somwhere I have had family and friends ask to stay with me and in some cases I have agreed and in other cases have not. Here are some thoughts on the do's and don'ts of the issue.

First and foremost, do make sure you are welcome beforehand, don't just show up and expect to be welcomed. You may think this is just common sense but I can assure you people do just show up at the door.

Do let your family or friend tell you how long you will be welcome for, don't say something like, 'we thought we might come and stay with you for 2 weeks in July'. That puts a lot of people in an awkward position. Not everyone knows how to say that they are not happy with the idea of you showing up for 2 weeks in July or whatever. So it is much better to ask in such a way that they volunteer both when and for how long you would be welcome. This may well be the most important point to consider.

Just because aunt Mary lives in Canada doesn't mean they will be happy to have you stay for months. Especially if they have never met you before. Who knows if you will even get along together? As for how long a second cousin will be welcome for, don't even ask. Bear in mind the saying by Benjamin Franklin, ' Fish and visitors smell in 3 days'.

Some people are happy to have visitors and some are not. Make sure you are welcome and don't overstay your welcome.

For those on the other end, that is finding yourself having to respond to family and friends who want to visit, there are also do's and don'ts.

Do make it clear how long they are welcome for, don't say something like, 'sure, come any time, stay as long as you want', if that is not what you really would like. If you do, you have only yourself to blame if they take you up on that over-generous offer. When someone brings up the subject to me I have several stock answers developed over the years.

A close family member (ie. Brother) gets the anytime, as long as you want answer. A cousin I have never met gets an answer depending on how they ask. If they say, 'we were thinking of 2 weeks in July', my answer might be, 'We haven't decided on our plans that far ahead yet, but I'll let you know if we are going to be around.' Otherwise known as the 'brush off'. Or it might be, 'July is a good time to visit and you are welcome to our spare bedroom but you do realize we will be working and you will be on your own for sightseeing and meals. We won't have time to drive you around or cook meals for you.' People often forget their hosts are not on holiday and if they are they aren't likely to want to spend their vacation time entertaining visitors. Sometimes as the potential host you need to make it quite clear, quite bluntly.

When living in one popular area I knew several people who got constant visitors all summer and moaned about it all the rest of the year. They would talk about how their visitors expected to be fed for free, driven around to see all the local sights, etc. When asked, they would say, 'well we can't say no to them, it would be rude.' My answer was it is the visitors who are being rude by expecting you to cater to them but you are just being stupid by doing it. Some visitors showed up every year for a week or two!

So the biggest do and don't for hosts is, do make it clear when and for how long and under what conditions someone will be welcome for and don't let anyone impose on you.

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A yank expat told me she let that happen to her only twice. She said, "I was strictly the maid. Now I tell 'em I have nowhere for 'em. But I can direct 'em to cheap hostels."

I'm lucky. As soon as I tell 'em I have no beds for 'em, the subject of $europe drops from the conversation. They don't want to see Europe, as much as they want a chump.

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Well said.

Many of us who have lived in "exciting and different" places have had the same problems with either univited or unwelcome guests, evened out by the lovely ones. My biggest gripe is those who say they don't want to give definite dates so they can keep their schedule flexible. No concern what ever for my schedule. After a few awkward experiences I now have a little set of conditions that are made very clear - ie they will have a key and can come and go as they please while I am at work, and that I will continue with my routines while they fit around them (and that includes keeping out of my way while I get showered fed and ready for work very early in the morning) and that the meal situation needs to be sorted out the night before.

This would make a good sticky as many younger travellers (and here I am generalising) have had no exposure to the costs and time involved in running a home, grocery shopping , and the complications of a day to day life where you are responsible to an outside employer or another individual.

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When ever I stay at a friends or relatives home I always remember, Guests like fish stink after three days .

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We once considered buying a property in a desirable coastal location. After listening to the vast number of friends, relatives and acquaintances who assured us they would all be coming to visit, we decided against it. Very few of these people ever visit us in our current less-than-desirable location.

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People often forget their hosts are not on holiday and if they are they aren't likely to want to spend their vacation time entertaining visitors.

That's an excellent point. We've had visitors who haven't cottoned on to this and have spent the whole day sitting around the house waiting for us to get home from work so we can 'do something together'. Now we make it clear that they can use our house as accommodation, but they need to amuse themselves.

And it's really appreciated if guests take us out for a meal once or twice during their stay, to make up for all the free meals they're getting out of us.

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Yeah agree with your last point their #5. I lived in Vancouver for 18 months and had 24 people come and visit me altogether. Of course I was most happy to see them as many of them had come over from Australia just to visit me, but it was an incredible financial drain as well. I was saving up to go traveling at the time too. Most of my friends were pretty kind though, and took me out to dinner or cooked me a meal to thank me for my hospitality.

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Here is a general rule of thumb if you have to piss at someones home you have been there to long.

I could make an exception if we had a couple of pints but you get the idea.

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Dzon't PLAN on staying with a distant family member. You are strangers. They don't owe you a thing.

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