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We're working on the rough plans for our RTW trip. This is a rough plan so Im throwing it out there to see from those who've done this how much it costed or if it's too rushed or whatever. We have 4-6 weeks to do it. Budget would be 6,000-8,000 USD not including flights to Seoul and from London.

Fly into Seoul
Ferry to Vladivostok
Trans siberian railroad with two or three stops in the middle. Likely Lake Baikal, Perm and Novosibirsk
Moscow
St Petersburg
Helsinki
Tallin
Riga
Stockholm
Oslo
Copenhagen

London to fly back to the states. I've already been to London and have family here, so London isn't really a destination.

Too rushed? We plan on doing a couple days at each. All transport from Seoul to London will be by Rail or ferry where appropriate. We'll stay longer at the bigger places and shorter at the smaller ones. Let me know your feedback. Specifically from people who've done this same trip or major parts of it.

Thanks!

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Technically, this is not a RTW :p Round The North Pole perhaps. Take a look for yourself (randomly using Chicago as start/end):

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=ord-icn-vvo-uud-ovb-pee-svo-led-hel-tll-rix-arn-osl-cph-lhr-ord

Too rushed? For most people, yes it would be. Since you won't be flying, transport will take a lot of time. For some of these places, you can travel overnight by bus or train. Is that an option for you? If not, you would easily waste the better part of a day just going from one place to the next. You've listed 13 destinations and have 28-42 days, so you're probably looking at 1-2 useful days in each city. I would advice making a calendar/spreadsheet with your itinerary day by day, taking transport in consideration, to get a better idea. Have you traveled at such a high pace before?

For me, the main thing with your itinerary is: just "big" cities. Only capitals outside of Russia. In Norway for example, Oslo is really not that interesting if you're also visiting Stockholm and Copenhagen. But the fjords of Norway are one of the most amazing things on this planet. Best thing you can do is rent a car and do a road trip here (3 days would do if you're really in a rush, but more is better). Or pay for a "Norway in a nutshell" tour. Failing that, at least swap Oslo for Bergen.

Consider taking the ferry to Stockholm from outside of Tallinn (Paldiski) instead of Riga, that's usually cheaper. A few years back, I've paid as little as $8 one way for the overnight ferry!! I think they recently raised the price though.

If you don't consider London a destination, look into flying through Reykjavik. I think that would fit right into this "northern hemisphere RTW". And one way tickets from Scandinavia to the US are often cheapest going through Reykjavik (Icelandair), so you could get a layover there for free. Again, Reykjavik by itself is not a highlight, you should rent a car (or do a tour if that's your thing).

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For $10K plus, it is way too rushed and you will most probably look back on it and say..good grief what were we thinking. Unless of course $10K plus is just pocket change.

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I agree it is hardly a RTW trip by most definitions but hey, you can call it whatever you want.

What is more to the point is the question of whether it is rushed or not. Using the Rule of 3s as a starting point, that would say you would need 13 x 4 nights for 13 places as a MINIMUM. That's 52 days without counting London or initial arrival and final departure days. So 55 at least.

It all depends on the purpose of your trip. You will not spend enough time in any one country to actaully see that country but you can check off a list of cities you have passed through if that's what you want to do.

I'd say 6 weeks is enough time to see a bit of Scandinavia or get a feel for Russia but not both. If it were only 4 weeks, a couple of Scandinavian countries or Russia one side of the Urals or the other.

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Heres my 2 cents.

I also like to travel fairly fast, but this seems a little to quick. 1 week will literally be on the Trans Siberian which takes more time out of sightseeing at your stops.

Here are some suggestions to gain some extra time.

I would lose RIga from your itinerary. Tallinn is the better pick out of the 2 cities and you will not be missing much by skipping it. As has previously been stated, it makes more sense and is cheaper to catch a ferry to Stockholm from Tallinn.

I would only go to Norway if I was going to see the Fjords. There is really no point to go to Oslo. Expensive and to see what? Again it is easier to get to Copenhagen from Stockholm rather then Oslo.

I think if you take out those 2 detinations it will make your trip a bit more comfortable time wise.

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Oh, and after you have done this trip, please give a trip report about the Trans Siberian journey. I will be doing this trip in 2014 and plan on stopping along the way as well. Love to see how it went and what your stops (lake Baikal) were like.

Have a great trip no matter what itinerary you decide.

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6 weeks Seoul to Helsinki would be a good trip
assuming you don't have a full 6 months to view the Hermitage in St Petersburg
those other countries could be combined with another visit to family in London

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Baikal a small lake connect with giant Enisey river What date your plan for Siberia ? We live in Krasnoyarsk. We are students of local English speaking club . We suggest to handshake with local residents and we glad to meet English speaking tourists, when they cross Krasnoyarsk rail hub.

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would have agree with all the above......too rushed and with a budget that at max works out at $43 a day.......not doable espcially as you have some of europes most expensive cities on your list.....not forgetting the trans siberian railway.....never been on it but i think it is very expensive

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Budget? How did you get that number of $43 max ger_power.

Minimum $6k and maximum 6 weeks is $142.85 per day. Budget is not a problem.

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