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Many members of the Thorntree, myself included, recommend using the timetables at www.bahn.de for virtually anywhere in Europe. They truly are excellent.

However, when doing some research recently to answer a question on another board, I discovered that at least one route is missing from the DB timetables. While DB lists many times for trains between Venice and Naples, the direct night train is not among them.

I wrote to DB and got this reply: "We do not have access to this train, it is not listed in our timetables." No explanation was given as to why this particular Trenitalia train, as opposed to any other Trenitalia train, is blocked from the DB site.

That led me to wonder if the same thing might be true for other Trenitalia routes, or for routes within any other countries whose national rail systems would deny access to DB for some particular route.

Has anyone else found a route on a country's national rail site that was NOT shown on DB?

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as opposed to any other Trenitalia train, is blocked from the DB site.

No input - no output. If the national railways don't report a train to DB they cannot list it. It's that easy.
Normally a timetable is published as a data package before the official timetable release. If there are later changes or changes during the year and no updates are made/published, they cannot know it. The DB timetable lives from the input of others.

Such problems are known mainly with regional trains in Portugal, Spain, the Balkans and Greece.

What I've also seen is missing data for buses and boats in Germany after the yearly timetable change. Basically the same problem. The local transport companies have not informed DB in time. After a few weeks they have however fixed this.

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#1, your answer certainly makes sense. The fault cleary seems to lie with Trenitalia's leaving that train off of the datbase it sent DB. When checking timetables for travel outside of Germany, I usually check both DB and the particular country's rail site. From now on I'll be sure to do it every time.

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