Hi guys! This is my first trip to Europe and I need help with my itinery and travel.. I'll be there for 3.5-4wks. I'll be taking trains most of the time and maybe buget air. Will eurail pass or the eurail flexipass be better?
Countries decided:
London
Paris
Munich
Amsterdam
Venice, Rome
Barcelona
Prague
Belgium(?)
Vienna(?)
Is it possible to complete all these places in 3.5-4wks? I'll be flying to either london, paris or amsterdam. Which is a better country to start from?
And my most difficult question is with these countries, how to plan my route or journey so i save time on travelling.


Can only see a single country - the rest are capitals or the usual tourist towns.
A very simple calculation: you will be here for some 25 days - fully fit all the time - not having the first week spoiled by jetlag(?). You want to visit 10 cities/towns (guessing that you will only go to a single city in Belgium).
Transport+locating your ho(s)tel takes most of a day. You have 1½ day for each place. Possible: yes no problem. Worth the effort: absolutely not. 100% waste of money and time.
Cut it down to 1/3 - choose places close to one another - add some non-capital places in these countries (90% of the attractions are not in the capitals) - so you end up visiting a few selected places in 3 "regions" (small country or part of a larger one) - include the capital if you are eager to visit such ones - and come back in one of your holidays next year if you like it.

I agree with the above. I can understand if this is your one chance to visit Europe, but you won't enjoy it if your totally exhausted all of the time and your entire trip is a rush of one place to the next.
I know it is hard - I am going to California for three weeks in October and my list of must sees amounted to twelve places. I don't exactly get to the USA often, so cutting back my list was hard, but I think I will benefit more from spending time in each place. Apart from Los Angeles, I am spending my time in the north and central California.
Either chose a few main cities - preferably those that are easily connected by train or short budget flights - or chose a small region and explore that region in depth. I would allow for five days in the major cities - that will actually just give you four days allowing for travelling, or longer.
I also 100% agree with one about exploring the area outsdie main cities as there you find some beautiful places and attractions off the beaten track. If you chose to stay in cities, hang around long enough to take a day trip out of each one. I always do this if I am on a city break. The contrast is usually amazing.
You´ll be travelling all the time with little chance to enjoy anything, with that itennerary.
Why is it your only time to go to Europe?
Or was that number one´s guess?
Capitols are the most expensive and most tourist trodden. Please pick a smaller area and chill.
It takes 1/2 a day just to get your barings. And at least that long just to sit down on a train.
Trains are the best mode of travel, because of what we have time to learn from other passengers.
The sooner you learn to do it on the cheap, the sooner you can come back.
We all learn from each other. I hope you´ll stay at a couple of youth hostels. They are ageless these days and more family oriented. I´m 66 and I stay there.
Otherwise I stay in mom and poip hotels. (little family owned businesses.) Quite folksy. 1 star and cheap.
Eatr at little mom and pop cafes, up in alleyways. They´re where the locals eat. Why should we get ripped off at tourist prices for beds and food?
Besides, we learn nothing thaT WAY.
mORE FOLKS SPEAK SOME eNGLISH THAN YOU WOULD IMMAGINE. aND MORE THAN YOU´D THINK HAVE LIVED STAESIDE FOR YEARS. tHEY COME BACK BECAUSE,"ITS JUST TOO FAST, TOO CRAZY AND TOO VIOLENT OVER THERE."
When are you going? That is an important consideration too. I doubt if you are going this summer since you don't have your plane reservations finalized yet. Am I right? To answer your question: if you skip the UK, then Amsterdam is the better place; usually cheaper than flights to Paris. But Paris is more central to fly in and out of.
Since your profile says "Thorn Tree World," I don't know which country you are coming from. If you are coming from the US, flights to London are often the best price, but the UK is tremendously expensive for Americans right now.
Yes, whittle down your itinery and, as noted in #1, figure one whole day between locations for travel time. Stay flexible and change your plan as you go. Have a route in mind (but even this can change) and some things that are 'must sees' for YOU; things YOU are most interested in. Let those personal 'must sees' drive your route. When you come back with a paired down route, we will be able to give some useful suggestions.

Thanks guys for the advice! I really appreciate it! From all your advices, i've decided to cut down down on countries and this is the latest itinery.
Oct
7-9 London
10-13 Paris (taking a flight to Prague)
13-18 Prague
18-22 Munich
22-27 Salzburg and Vienna
28-30 Verona and Venice
31- 3 Rome (taking a flight to London)
3-4 London
How does this look? More achievable? Any places outside these cities to recommend?

cherzel, looking at the Itinerary in #6, it occurred to me that it would be more efficient both in terms of time and money to use "open jaw" flights so that you don't have to return to London. If you haven't already bought your air tickets, you might find this works better.
Good luck with your planning!
Why do you keep referring to these places as countries? They're cities. Does that reflect some anal, collecting part of your personality, an amassing of 'countries' visited ? I hope not.
Ok, now for the reality stuff. Each of those journeys is going to take you a minimum of half a day, door-to-door. You've got nine such journeys, i.e. 4.5 days out of your total.
Better to play it as you go. London for a week, will eat all your money. Squeeze yourself out of London after three or four days.
Its endless. And sucks money like Paris, Barcelona, and Amsterdam.
Be sure to go to the museum of London, itself. Very state of art.
Takes London from b4 people were there.
At Tower of L"ondon, ignore the crown jewels. Spend your time in the White Tower.
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My Art History prof., said. "If you can only go one place in Europe, make it Florence. Its the birthplace of the Rennaisance."
Get out of those expensive big cities. The come back some day and see it right theory is bs. Too many places. Stop look and LISTEN.
THE MOST VALUABLE TRAVEL IS DONE WITH THE EARS.
Sanctimonious lecture #322.
Absorb culture by just sitting and talk with anyone who will. Don't just do something, sit there.
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Traveller's Rule #1;
If they ask too many personal questions, get away from 'em.
Have fun. Use street sense.

I don't see a problem with your original schedule, 4 weeks are enough IF you travel by cheap air when possible! This is what I would do if I was you:
Train: Paris (3 days) - Brussels(2) - Amsterdam(2) fly to Prague (2) trains to Vienna - Munich then fly the rest of the way to Venice - Rome(3) - Barcelona(3) - London (3)
The above schedule works if you just want to see the major sites and move on. If you wanna go Hemingway on this trip then cut 4 cities from the schedule. I have never been to Vienna, Venice, and Munich so I don't know how many days would take you to see the major sites. It all depends too on your flight/train times but it looks like it can work out.