Where in Western Europe to move to?

OP,
Thank you for providing the common types of entertainment offered by people like you.

Now since you have stated that you can get the type of assistance that can be obtained here from other sources, I think the best solution for all of us here, not including you, is that you go forth to those sites and don't bother returning here. That's good for us because we won't waste any more of our time on you. It's not good for you because you will continue to waste your time seeking the impossible. But, hey, that is your business and none of ours. Have fun at the next online resource when you start to give them attitude too after getting advice you don't like.

There are no people like me. Maybe I'll stick around just to annoy you. ;o)

But I'd like to encourage NICE people who have an interesting angle to participate in this thread, if they want.

Sorry but you can't screen for people that you define as nice.

You are correct, I am bothered by the fact that at 26 yo you seemingly depend entirely on your mother for financial support. Bothered in the sense of confused, perplexed or puzzled. I can imagine multiple simple explanations and lots of scenarios where this might be acceptable or understandable, but you offer none.

The fact that you seemingly think that your mother is going to find the perfect job in the perfect city someplace else in the world or that foreign governments are going to simply accept your situation and permit you to reside anywhere you want in the EU, these things bother me as well.

Please do keep us posted regarding where you do end up moving. I will be curious to know.

Ruth

What I'm trying to do is attract niceness by emphasising my interest in it

I might not want to share details of my personal life on a public forum, and even if I did, it's not that simple at all, so I wouldn't know where to begin.

As much as I'd like to wind up in Barcelona (most of all), I'm aware that it may not be possible. We will look at all the options, and of course it comes down to where the jobs are as much as which ones we want to go for. I had optimism in mind when I wrote this post, and it's optimism I respond to.

Since you request politely, I'll update this thread when/if we decide to move. It may take a year or more, though!

Epiphanie

As a native speaker of Dutch who spent years to become fluent (but not perfect) in English, Japanese and German and meanwhile acquired working knowledge of French plus basic Spanish and Italian, I have been following this thread with growing irritation.

You came here asking for advice concerning Europe, so you could have known that people living in Europe might respond (it's totally irrelevant if LP is originally Australian, Italian or Burmese, this is an international forum and if you were looking for replies from fellow Australians only you should have told us so from the start). It is also a given that, outside the UK and Ireland, the vast majority of the population do not learn English as their mother tongue. We spend many, many years trying to master English, and often at least one other world language; relatively few Europeans have the chance to live in English speaking countries for an extended period, so our English will never be as good as that of a native speaker. Being corrected when making a mistake is one thing, but the arrogance with which you do it is uncalled for and insulting.
Anyway, if your attitude on this thread is indicative of how you treat people in real life, I think you'd better give up the idea of living anywhere in Europe, unless you learn how to deal with people who speak less-than-perfect English.

Keti was from the start trying to help you. S/he may not have given you the replies you were hoping for, but nothing in his/her post justifies the kind of response you've given him/her. Whatever you say to justify your behaviour, basically you're just getting yourself deeper down the hole you've dug for yourself. This is a public forum and you don't get to choose the answers people give you. Insulting some of the most prolific and helpful contributors to this board doesn't inspire other people to post a reply, especially since your definition of "nice people" seems to be "people who tell me what I want to hear".

Bottom line: grow up, be nice to others and others will be nice to you. And will give you the help you are looking for; but frankly, unless you change that attitude of yours and stop scaring users off by attacking their intelligence based on the number of grammatical or spelling mistakes in their 3rd, 4th or 8th languages, I wouldn't set my hopes too high if I were you.

P.S. 1 as for Barcelona: search the Western Europe branch to find out more about the dire state of the job market there, even for those who are fluent in Catalan and Castillian Spanish. One word of advice: brace yourself.

P.S. 2 have a look at the writing skills of your countrymates asking for advice on e.g. the Europe branches. There's a big challenge there if you like to correct other people's English.

you're so narrow-minded that there's no point responding to you.
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I am narrow minded? lol now THIS is entertaining. and lets see..we are all rude..
hmm...i think you might be reflecting YOUR behaviour onto us.
YOU were the one who is rude and YOU are the one who is narrow minded.

if by narrow minded you mean that i believe a person moving to a non english speaking country should expect to adjust to the host country AND language and not the other way around, then yes, im narrow minded. but please do visit spain and italy, youll enjoy learning both italian and spanish because they certainly wont learn english to please a spoiled little brat.

What I'm trying to do is attract niceness by emphasising my interest in it
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i think you have far greater chances of attracting niceness by actually BEING NICE!

We will look at all the options, and of course it comes down to where the jobs are as much as which ones we want to go for. I had optimism in mind when I wrote this post, and it's optimism I respond to.

Since you request politely, I'll update this thread when/if we decide to move. It may take a year or more, though!
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well, i guess then we will never get to see this thread updated in regards to your move, since its never going to happen. its not up to you to decide to move (unless moving to bulgaria) but eu countries to grant you the permission.

unfortunatelly for you, there is no EU residence permit category for persons who spend their days preaching on the net.

and postmodernist intellectuals we already have plenty.

No, I don't like to correct other people's language skills all the time. It's just that when I see a very basic word not spelled correctly I feel it's better to let the other person know. Neither am I some kind of English imperialist. I think language diversity is a wonderful thing. Obviously, when I go to Europe I don't expect continental ppl (apart from most Scandinavians) to speak perfect English, and don't typically correct them. And I totally agree that this is an international forum, which can be defined as a 'culture-free' or, even better 'a culturally diverse' forum. English is the language most of us speak, and so we do.

To say that Australian English is 'barely proper' is incredibly narrow-minded. It's as valid and sophisticated as any other version of English. Not every native English speaker comes from the UK or US. Maybe Keti should get out of Europe every now and again so he/she can learn to respect diversity in cultures other than his/her own. Also, not all Bulgarians are rude. That's stereotyping. What's more, I hardly ever identify myself as a Bulgarian (or feel like one). Most people think I'm Canadian. As a side-bar, I see that Keti hasn't, after all this time, taken the thought to correct the mistake. Well, it's her loss.

I was mainly expecting advice from people from the UK & Ireland, but not because I only want it from them. Anyone is welcome to respond. I am also, generally, a very nice and respectful person. I'm just sick of being called a dreamer by random people who don't know me. That word triggered something.

The other thing is that I meet up with Europeans traveling to Australia all the time who want some help with their English in the form of free language exchanges (currently I'm learning Spanish, French, and more Japanese), and so I'm am subconsciously used to a dynamic where people help each other learn languages. I'm sorry if I've implied that just because someone doesn't speak perfect English, they should.