Most left leaning (western society) for a Canadian to move to

Before the 1960s Canada was a nation of self-reliant people who looked after themselves, their families and their neighbours. Since the 1960s governments on all levels have sapped the traditional Canadian values of hard work and self-reliance. The entrepreneurial values that made Canada the true north strong and free. Pearson, Trudeau et al started this unfortunate trend which continues today.

You have been told that big government interferring in every aspect of life from your health to your what you eat is 'traditionally Canadian.' This is just not so. Traditional Canadian values go back further than the sixties.

The average hard working Canadian now works the first six months of the year to support a bloated government and a myriad of soul sucking government entitlements. The Canadian nanny state has driven up the national debt to 500 and something billion dollars. Now that might not matter to a leftist such as yourself but it does matter to many Canadians who recognize that it is, in the words of the uber-trendy, unsustainable.

If you want to live in a left wing socialist society you need not leave Canada. Move onto any one of the First Nations Reserves. There you will see what the full impact of the nanny/socialist state has been. You will see broken people destroyed by many generations of government handouts. The picture is not pretty.

No offense but I think your a nut, not personal, I dont know you but that sort of thinking is insane and inaccurate.

Maybe you want to go back to some sort of homestead type of living where you had to pull ur own teeth and sew your own wounds but most modern people shake their head at such ridiculous ideas.

Not sure what u think traditional means, you mean dying from the cold because u cant afford the heat? or having bosses chain you into your factory all day and being able to fire you for no good reason?

Anyway, its people like you that ruin the good thing Canada had, please dont breed, for the sake of humanity LOL

Back to my question:

Where would be a good, intelligent, left leaning country that a Canadian could move to easily?

I am aiming at places like Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, Sweden, maybe Germany.

Just brainstorming at this point.

Son, you are clueless. European socialism is dead. It lives on only in the minds of the tenured professariat drinking white wine in the salons of the left and their naive 20 something humanities students. At the height of British socialism (pre-Thatcher) the Soviet Trade Commissioner complained about the low quality of British goods. Imagine, the Soviet Trade Commisioner making this complaint.

If you want a society where you don't have to work very hard and can depend on government handouts I would suggest staying in Canada.

Right now in Canada you need to work just a little over 900 hours a year and afterwards you can collect unemployment insurance for 18 months. When you are 65 you will be eligable to collect a pension for life. If you are a teenaged girl and get knocked up the state will support you and your bastards. In many school board districts your children are entitled to free in-school breakfasts. You don't even have to drag your lazy ass out of bed to put on a pot of oatmeal. Nanny state will shove the food into your kid's mouth. If you drank yourself into a drunken stupour when you were pregnant and your child was born with Fetal Alcohol syndrome then the state will pay for special education programmes. Medical care is free for everyone. Drugs are free if you refuse to work. Education for everyone from kindergarten to high school graduation will not cost you a dime.

What more socialism do you require you lazy bum?

Please take it to private message if you want to be a nut, youve poisoned the thread enough already, thanks.

Back to my question:

Where would be a good, intelligent, left leaning country that a Canadian could move to easily?

I am aiming at places like Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, Sweden, maybe Germany.

Just brainstorming at this point.

Too bad Pot Pol is not still around. Then I could definately suggest Cambodia. Now that lad was seriously 'left leaning.' If you want left wing try Cuba or Venezuela. Cuba is so leftist that they just got cell phones last year with some very major restrictions on who can get one. How's that for Utopia?

Try Cuba or Venezuela. I would suggest Cambodia but Pot Pol is long gone. Now that lad was seriously left-leaning.

Back to reality and my question:

Where would be a good, intelligent, left leaning country that a Canadian could move to easily?

I am aiming at places like Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, Sweden, maybe Germany.

Just brainstorming at this point.

You are correct about these countries. HOWEVER. They are all extremely racist, even if you are "white". No one will hire you in Norway unless you have a Norwegian name and speak absolutely FLUENT Norwegian. Norwegian has two written forms and you better master both as one deals with the many dialects. We have many Poles and Swedes working for us. Unless you have a vested interest in Norwegian culture, literature, language, girls, nature some reason that you love our country and must live here, don't. I don't hate immigrants I'm just saying. It's pretty liberal though, gay people can get married in a church, no one is hungry etc.

My suggestion to you is that you live a year in a developing country. I did that for several years and I too used to complain about my country. Believe you me, when you return Canada will seem like heaven.

Back to reality...

I'm British, and I don't think here would be what you are looking for - the Conservative party are, unfortunately, here to stay for a number of years, and we'll be seeing the gap between rich and poor widening still further and the most vulnerable hit hardest by the cuts. I'm confused by your use of the term "fascist", though - our govt. is not authoritarian and we are one of the least nationalistic countries (collection of nations!) in the world. There are lots of people who are left-leaning here and believe strongly in social justice. You could find your niche.

The welfare state is arguably more extensive in Germany than in the UK - though there's no national health service, of course. Again, there are lots of left-wing people, from social democrats right the way to communists. There are still left-wing housing projects and the like in cities like Berlin (and the local administration is left-wing). Berlin's an amazing city, worth looking into. Unemployment is very high, though, so you would need some specialist skills to get a foot in the door.