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Hi all, this is my fisrt post but I have done a lot of browsing on this topic and have seen a wide range of university teachers advising not to do a TESOL or TEFL course unless it is to sharpen knowledge for someone who has studied teaching at Uni.

My situation goes like this...

I am a 30 YO woman who is packing up to backpack around the world with an open mind as to where I want to go. From the age of 22-27, I could not do long term travel as I was unfortunate enough to get the big C at a young age and those years were spent in and out of hospital to fix up damage of bad operations etc..

I have since purchased a house at which I rent out and can give me a small income whilist travelling and will be selling my car and leaving Australia with around $15-20 G.

I am starting my trip in September and going to Bali for 3 weeks, then to Nepal (these are the only 2 tickets I have purchased) then planning to spend up tp 3 months in India and see how I go from there..

I have spoken to a friend who works on a holiday yacht throughout Malta and he is encoraging me to do a STCW95 course of which I plan only to do if and when I go to Europe (as it costs around $2,500 AUD or EUR 800) so I dont want to spend this much unless Europe is where I am heading..

I have found a TESOL TEFL course online for a good price through Global Leadership Travel and I am wondering if it is worth doing, as I may head to Africa and want to teach English there, or maybe faal in love with India and find the option there too..

Has anyone on thorntree done a TESOL or TEFL course and recommend it?

I would love to hear any suggestions :)

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Hi

I did a TESOL TEFL, they are alright to have if you need proof of your english skills. For example if you are going to be teaching. Also they are not to expensive I did mine in Australia because I needed proof of my english skills for my work visa.
So if you know you will be teaching then it would be a good idea but if you are not going to do that you should not need it, unless you want to start at uni overseas :)
They to the test all over the world so if you happen to be in EU and realise you need it you can take it there too.

Regards
Erik

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as it costs around $2,500 AUD or EUR 800

$2,500 AUD is about 1,950 EUR.

800 EUR is just over $1,000 AUD, so the STCW95 course might be a little cheaper than you think :-)

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Is that the global leadership college one found for cheap on groupon? we're doing it too, and are wondering the same thing. lots of different opinions

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Yes, there's a You Swoop (similar to Groupon) for Global Leadership College. I was wondering if it's legit and if anyone's got feedback from that specific program... Thanks!

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There are countless threads here on TEFL. Use the search box at the top right of this page and you will find them.

Bottom line, an online course is about as useful as an online brain surgery course. That is assuming you care about how good a job you will be able to do for the students. Most of those who take an online course only care about whether it will get them paid work or not. That's between you and your conscience.

For example, as shown above, they will not teach you the difference between the words to and too. "they are not to expensive"+ and +"you can take it there too." One incorrect and one correct. But hey, he's got a Certificate that says he can teach.

The ability to speak English does NOT mean you are qualified to teach English. That's contrary to what a lot of people seem to think.

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I just found these two reviews of the Global Leadership College TESOL program. It's only two reviews, but the first is very thorough... Something to consider!

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"...an online course is about as useful as an online brain surgery course".

Thanks travelnstyle46 'tis oh so very, very true. Trust me, Emma. I did the research for months, ad NASEUM, and swiftly learned that if the course doesn't have an on site, hands-on teaching component, you'll be tossing your money down the drain. Any school worth a lick won't give a whit about your silly online TESOL/TEFL. Seriously.

Do not, repeat DO NOT take an online course. You'd be better off taking no EFL course at all.

Besides, for that kind of money, you could easily take the CELTA (the gold standard of EFL teaching). Indeed, you can take it in most any country on the globe.. And then you can verily write your own ticket and teach at a GOOD school most anywhere on the Planet.

This is presuming of course that you have a university degree.

In any case, after MONTHS of research, that's what I did. Sold every blessed thing I owned, bought a one way ticket to Vietnam, took the CELTA here in Saigon, and now...

Suffice my life simply couldn't be sweeter. I honestly have to pinch myself daily to believe this is now my life.

I got a 6 month contract with the school I took the CELTA at, learned a TON, and I dare say I'm now an excellent EFL teacher of all age students (from 5 yr. old adorable "Jumpstarts" to adults. I get paid 20 bucks/hr. (a fortune here in cheapo Asia), have a gorgeous apartment (with a/c, flat screen, cable, wifi, laundry and daily maid service), and... best of all:

In the past 6 months I've whizzed off to Sumatra for 3 weeks at Christmas, a week on the island of Phu Quoc for my birthday, a week at Angkor Wat, Cambodia, a week in Dalat, a few days at the beach in Mui Ne (all whilst teaching 'cuz all my classes are on Sat/Sun), and...

I'm now set to droop into Chaing Mai, Thailand for a bit, to check it out as a possible resettlement spot, and then on to a full month in Mongolia.

Upon my return in September, I can work most anywhere I please either here in Saigon, elsewhere in Vietnam, Thailand, China, Japan, Indonesia, younameit. Full time or part time (I prefer the latter, I only teach 12 hrs. per week as I too have a small side income) else dabble in a bit of private tutoring.

Sorry to blather, but I just hate to see you throw your money away, and end up with a hunk of paper that's worthless.

Teaching EFL around the world is FABULOUS. But do it right, take a month to get a decent EFL credential (that someone might even recognize), and my dear, like me, you'll go to bed each night (in some of the most exotic paradises on the globe) with a great big ol' SMILE on your face. I guarantee it!

(and if you want to know more, about the CELTA, the EFL teaching here in Vietnam, etc. - tune into my TravelnLass blog)

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"I'm now set to droop into Chaing Mai"

Is that because of the high humidity travelnlass? ;)

On a more serious note you raise a good point travelnlass. While there are 'schools' who will hire someone with an online course certificate and no real skills, how likely it is that someone would get hired by a good school is another question.

There are 2 things to bear in mind. There is no such thing as a recognized international body that certifies TEFL courses or teachers. Many courses advertise that their courses are certified and that is simply not true. What that tells you is something about the course provider but even more importantly, raises the question that if certification doesn't exist then on what basis does a reputable school base their hiring decision? The answer obviously is on their own perception of the course/certificate you have.

So in simple terms, hiring is done based on how ACCEPTED your certificate is by any given school. Every school has heard of CELTA but how many do you think have heard of all the little mickey mouse online courses?

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"I'm now set to droop into Chaing Mai"

Is that because of the high humidity travelnlass? ;)

LOL, yup, it's extremely hot and droopy here in Saigon, so I'm looking to relocate in the highlands of Dalat or Chiang Mai. ;)

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