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It clearly would cover most of the royals and other members of the rentier capitalist class.

How do they verify this? They can't ask to see a UB40 since that wouldn't cover home workers. Is there an honor system?

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Most of the places I looked at that had concessions for those not currently employed, required "proof that you are receiving Job Seekers Allowance."

Jobseeker’s Allowance is the main benefit for people of working age who are out of work or work less than 16 hours a week on average. If you're eligible, it is paid while you're looking for work.

So it appears to be a sort of UK equivalent of what is called "unemployment (benefits)" in the US. As with the US, there are all sorts of eligibility requirements.

Edited to add link.


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I can't see why they don't call it unemployed then. If you were raising children at home without paid employment and without seeking paid employment, you would be unwaged, but you wouldn't be able to get the concession price for unwaged workers because you couldn't show that proof.

My reference to a UB40 may have been mistaken or out of date. I know that the band UB40 named itself after Unemplyment Benefit Form 40, but I don't know if that's the card you show to collect benefit or the form you fill out to apply for it. i was thinking the former.

Since Unemployment Benefit seems to have been replaced by Job Seekers' Allowance, it seems that "unemployed" has some stigma attached to it in the UK that I don't think it has in the US.

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Is there a contemporary British term for being on welfare?

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"On the dole"? Or is that just unemployment?

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nutrax, "on the dole" means you are receiving unemployment benefit (aka "the dole"). Vinny, "unemployed" has had a stigma attached to it since Maggie Thatcher ("We must back the workers, not the shirkers").

"Wot me, unemployed?! Nah, I just ain't got a job at the moment."

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I guess there has always been some stigma attached to it here. Entertainers used to say they were "between engagements". But not enough to require a new general term.

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'Welfare' is 'benefits' in the UK. I'm British but have to confess that 'unwaged' was new to me.

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As a Brit/Londoner, I cannot see any consistency between the 3 recordings.

In the first, Juliet sounds like a present day 'country yokel' ie very rural/uneducated. Romeo has a completely different accent, such that one would never think that the two were of the same age in the same city.

The Sonnet sounds very Irish indeed.

I have to say I struggle to see the point recordings like these, as no-one has any way of saying how close (or not) they are to the 'real thing'. Having said that, isn't there an island off the east coast of the US, where it is claimed that the prevailing accent is very similar to sixteenth/seventeenth century English?

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Tangier Island, Virginia.

"Claimed" is the operative word.

Edited by: VinnyD to link to video. I've been to Sunday services in that church.

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