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  1. He stopped patronizing that store.
  2. What a patronizing remark!

English speakers, do you pronounce "patronizing" the same way in both sentences?

I think I'm mentally pronouncing it paytronizing in #1 and either paytronizing or pattronizing in #2 (I can't decide), but I'm not sure that makes sense. Merriam-Webster gives both pronunciations, but doesn't indicate that the different meanings of the word call for different pronunciations, so that's probably not the case.

Opinions? How do you say it?

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Hi shilgia, good question. I say "pay" for the first (though it's not a word I would use) and "patt" for the second. I can't give any reason why, however. I think I would consider it wrong if someone said "pay" in the second case. At least an American. I don't know what they do in other places.

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Thanks!

I think I say "patt" in the second, but after I wrote that I tried out "pay" and I couldn't decide whether it sounded wrong.

Does it sound wrong to everyone else also?

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I'm sure I say paytronize for sense #1. I think I say pattronize for sense #2 but I'm not sure. Paytronize wouldn't sound wrong to me in sense #2. I don't know if the Brits use the word in sense #1.

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I would agree with everyone so far, paytronize for #1, pattronize for #2. And like DianaHaddad, I'm not sure I'd even use the word in the sense of #1, although possibly in a somewhat overblown way. So I might say, "I would prefer not to patronize his establishment," but if I were being more casual, just, "I don't like to go there" or "I won't shop there."

Patronizing as in #2, yes, I do use that, and I'm quite sure I say pattronizing. I'm Canadian, BTW.

Odd that this apparently consistent distinction in pronunciation doesn't show up in a dictionary. Mind you, I'd never even thought about it until you asked, Shilgia. Which is what I love about SiT!

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I would say PAYtronizing for both, and I'm an American. Then again it's not a word I ever use, and I've been known for strange and incorrect pronunciations.

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Australians use "patt"ronizing in both cases, with the emphasis on the Patt. We use it reasonably often.

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Interesting question Shilgia. I think you might be on to something. This native speaker of English from Ireland finds the "pay" pronunciation works for both senses, and I think I probably use the "patt" pronunciation sometimes in the second sense, and probably not in the first. However, I'm not sure how often I would use the word in the first sense, if ever - at least in speech.

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I back up what Shona would say: "patt"ronizing is how both senses of the word are pronounced in Australia. I think "pay"tronizing would be regarded as sounding a bit American to most Australians.

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This American has never patt-onized anything, nor have I ever found anything or anyone to be patt-ronizing.


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