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If you know how to pronounce Beijing, Shanghai and fengshui then you can figure almost half of it out straight away. Bei, hei, lei, mei, pei, jing, ling, bing, shang, hang, bang, rang, feng, meng, peng, deng, shui, hui, rui.

Um....not really. Mandarin Chinese has 422 morphological combinations, exclusive of tone. Still, learning pinyin is dead easy. Even the slowest students should be able to master the system in a matter of days.

I’ve never taken a class to learn Chinese. For me, that seems slow and pointless. Some people think it’s absolutely essential for them, however. Courses for horses.

C_Z may well be one of those rare, gifted, intuitive language learners that absorbs language mostly by osmosis. At least, I hope he is...rather than the much more common duffers ones overhears in Beijing, boasting of their language prowess while bleating some toneless something only vaguely recognizable as Chinese by very sympathetic listeners. 99% of learners, however, will benefit from a class, especially at the beginning. The methods C_Z mentions are fine supplements, but for most learners they're a poor substitute for someone drilling you and ruthlessly, repeatedly correcting your pronunciation and word-order lapses. Once you have a solid grounding, it's much easier to continue studying on your own.

"thank you" (che che nee")

Lesson 1 in hanzi (= Chinese characters) and pinyin: 谢谢你 , xie xie ni.

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If so, is taking a class at one stage more benificial than another (eg at beginner or advanced level)?

At the beginner's level, for the reasons zashibis gave you. It's good to have a proper start in using tones, pinyin and characters. Once you've taken a beginner's course, you'll know what you should be paying attention to when studying on your own.

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OP, why don't you watch Chinese TV programmes online? Or Chinese movies, first without subtitles, then with it? It's be both educational and hopefully entertaining....

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Thanks, I've just bought "Beginner's Chinese Script", so am about to work on that. I've also managed to buy a couple of Chinese language films, but will buy more in Bangkok, as the range ere is pretty limited. Any recommendations on films, music or childrens books?

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China Daily today published a list of essential Chinese movies

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/2009-04/20/content_7693171.htm

So, you have enrolled in language lessons and sworn you will master Putonghua for that authentic China experience (Sigh! Easier said than done). You have booked a spot on any and every culture trip that promises to take you off the beaten track to see the "real" China and you have scoured every downtown area for a genuine, untouched hutong "to see how locals really lived". (But where, oh where, are these gems ?)

Now, how about catching "the films you must see before you leave China"? Here they are, all of them award-winners, this list inspired by a lecture given on this very topic by movie aficionado Breen O'Reilly, who teaches Film Studies at the International School of Beijing.

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Thanks

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Try the videos here:

http://news.cctv.com/video/index.shtml

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One of our local librarians had a brilliant idea and, despite objections from higher authorities, has implemented it in our local library. She has compiled and computerised a list of the languages used in all the foreign films in the library's stock so that, if someone specifically wants a movie in Mandarin (or Portuguese, Spanish or Cantonese etc.) it can be found easily on the catalogue by typing in the language. Her rationale is that, with so many people learning a second language and her constantly being asked about films in a particular language, she decided to go through all the foreign films and find out their language, to make it easy (for her and others) to find films in a desired language. She is going to push for it in the other library branches and I am writing a letter of support.

As a result of the new catalogue, I have borrowed Red Sorghum+ and +Shangai Dreams+. Others I found under Mandarin include +Kekexili - Mountain Patrol+; +Riding Alone for Thousands of Miles+; +Seven Swords+; +Springtime In A Small Town+; and +Three Times . As to the merits of the films, we'll see!

BTW - To Live is in Cantonese, isn't it?

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Oops - that should read Shanghai Dreams .

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#17, according to imdb, it's Mandarin. Gong Li starred in it, so I think they could be right.

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