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I knew there was a reason I send my teens reading Hornblower books, Vinny.

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Much better than Patrick O'Brien, IMHO.

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Yup, Vinny is right. The quote actually did say "may be" not "maybe", my mistake. I know I could have looked all this stuff up in the Dictionary but it is so much more interesting, and entertaining, to hear what you guys have to say.

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Cogito, #9, and Vinny, #11, That's basically what I THOUGHT I said, but now on re-reading after the comments I see it wasn't, not really. But the fact remains that with all those "adjudicated" words, most folks do have to hire an attorney to translate for them. And when bill for "simple" English get introduced in various legislatures, it's the ABA lawyers that lead the lobbying against them. I was a semi-professional lobbyist (part-time) for 25 years and saw it with my own eyes.

Sorry for the mis-understanding.

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The ABA has opposed those bills for the reasons that Cogito and I gave, mazgringo.

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But in contract law the concept of 'estoppel' has given way to that of 'unjust enrichment' - not of course that these mean the same, but the latter includes the idea that you can't deny an obligation to repay for some benefit just because you didn't promise to pay for it.

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It's an American concept, unjust enrichment, I think; but estoppel was never really a contractual thing, it is more about regulating non-formal interactions.

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Sorry for not being clear: I was explaining 'estoppel' as translated in American law into 'unjust enrichment'. (Does that not have English legal roots?) 'Estoppel' comes from 'promissory estoppel', I think a concept in English law, meaning you can't now take back something you've said before. I don't know how, if at all, these concepts are used in modern
English law.

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we still have estoppel.

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#15 -- You are talking about two different things:

Promissory Estoppel
Unjust Enrichment

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