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Thanks for all the responses.

We're travelling all of SE Asia not just vietnam as well as the USA so we were highly recommended Rabies.

I appreciate some of the posts say that i can get vaccinations on the NHS but that was the point of the post, the NHS will NOT provide us with them as they do not have enough vaccinations and if they refer us anywhere it's all private. We physically cannot get them on the NHS which is frustrating because it's the best part of £500-600 on vaccinations we hadn't budgeted for, rabies and jap enph i expected to pay for

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What about the US? There's plenty of beaches, some of the most incredible national parks I've ever seen, plus there are the big cities like San Fran which are fun with kids.
Places like Costa Rica and many countries in Asia would also be great but you'd need to consider what vaccinations, mosquito and water precautions that might stop you with a baby.
Closer to the UK, my picks would be Spain, Portugal, Greece, and Italy.
I hope that gives you a few ideas.

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In response to #14

How did it all go? Have you travelled yet? Sharing similar concerns and want to know our options too!
Trying to figure out if it will be required if we travel to/from Kenya and Ethiopia in either direction. I don't want to cancel one of the countries just in order to avoid this vaccine!

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Okay- but the issue is always, you have to use a approved Doctor. Its the same thing here in States when you apply for Permanent Residence, you not only need all your home country medical records, you have to go through all the test and vaccines if needed again, in order to complete the Bio Metrics Process, as my Chinese wife navigated the process for her Visa/Green Card. Luckily we lived in Chicago and there was many options listed for a DR, but none cheap. I think it was $225 USD in 2008....if that makes you feel any better,,, pardon the pun,


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We don't yet what the limits are to the acceptance of lockdown, so I don't think you can assert any of this.

I don't assert, I mention it as a risk that be should considered. I also mention more than just acceptance, there are negative health effects attached it. But of course, we don't know, so let's ignore the reports about increased domestic violence and just assume we can extend it endlessly?

People keep talking about the "peak coming in three weeks" - but more in hope than with any real data to go on.

Well, these peak calls, at least of the ones I've seen are mostly based on proper arguments though they of course do come with caveats. Those peaks are however pretty much pointless, it's not the end of the crisis, at bests it's the end of the start of the crisis. You may be happy with waiting it out in a lockdown till we have a vaccine, for many, including me, it's not an acceptable path.

The chief medical dude in the US (who deserves a medal for putting up with the execrable Trump) has talked about possible American deaths of 100,000-200,000 ... which apart from the vast scale of it, is such a wide range as to be effectively meaningless.

It may be meaningless to you, I can only say that they are likely overly optimistic unless lockdown conditions are maintained for a very long time. I'ld say millions is more realistic.

So long as people aren't starving, or being evicted, and their kids are receiving some form of remote education or being home schooled ... I think society will put up with the isolation and lockdown rules for a very long time, even if the "light at the end of the tunnel" is estimated to be a long time into the future.

Sure, some are, but are there enough? And apart from people willing to put up with it, should we want to? You may deny/ignore the downside. There are healthcare specialists bringing up the subject and openly questioning how long we can/should put up with it.

The 2020 Olympics have been re-set for 23 July 2021 ... on the basis of what? That things will have returned to "normal" by then? They might well have - or indeed well before then ... but we simply don't know enough.

I don't know and unless they intend to hold them without public I would not be surprised if it got canceled/delayed again.

The problem with epidemiology is that expertise is only as good as the last epidemic, not the current one ... and the experts readily admit this themselves. Same with economics - but they rarely admit it.

It's clear you have no confidence in science and prefer to dismiss statistical probabilities as we 'don't know'. I prefer to play the odds, at least when they are clearly stacked one way or another. There is a reason that South Korea, Taiwan etc manage so well, they learned from previous epidemics and applied the lessons. Every epidemic the virus may be different and consequently comes with a learning curve. Reality is that they all have a lot in common too.

I think seasonality is the next big kicker - will significantly warmer weather in the Northern Hemisphere slow transmission? And if it does - a good thing - does it mean a second wave kicks in again when it turns cold again?

No certainties, but there is statistical research that suggests the seasonality effect is only very small. Don't bet the farm on it.

We really are hoping for a vaccine and/or an effective cure, and pretty soon.

Yea, we hope.... not really a strategy is it? Virtually all experts project a vaccin to be at least 1-2 years out. I can imagine that if early results look good they may start administering it early to old high risk people, but taking shortcuts with a vaccine is high risk as a bad vaccine may make a lot of healthy people sick. It's not like a medicine where you can simply choose to administer it without considering potential side effects as the alternative is (near) certain dead and there is no way to make it worse.

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@UKEnglishTeacher vaccinations in Canada are now at around 200$, and are only valid for a year (since there's a shortage they are dividing one dose between 5 patients).
That's why the thought if it's worth the investment, especially since basically I will have 4 days in an area that's higher risk (Santa Marta and Minca).

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For what it's worth, Yellow Fever vaccines no longer have an expiration date, so should you ever go to another Yellow Fever certificate requiring nation, you'll have it already. Might as well get it and be done with it!

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Holy. The Houston site looks muuuuch easier to use

I’m finding conflicting information about the yellow fever vaccine. Did you have to submit proof of vaccination? I just spoke with the consulate and the random person answering the phone said the vaccine is not manadatory and I don’t see a reference to vaccination in their required paperwork

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In response to #8

I responded with the most appropriate answer. Talk to a doctor.
You didn't do a simple search before asking for free medical advice from strangers. That is insincere, IMO.
I suspect you've already decided on your medical precautions and you are instead looking for reassurance. This, again IMO, is a dangerous mindset, especially when it comes to vaccines.
Your comment "finally an answer" seemed rather targeted.
I hope your experience in India meets your demands for sincerity.

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Hello,
My family doctor advised us to get the yellow fever vaccine even if we don't go to the jungle because of the new requirements. According to him the yellow certificate is required to be able to exit Peru and board the plane. Oh, and we are not going to any other South American country after Peru trip, we will head back to the UK. Anybody has heard about it as it seems very strange to me? Thanks, Dominika

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