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Hello everybody

My girlfriend and I would like to make a 3-week trip through South-East Asia from 29 July to 16 August 2019. Yes, we are aware of the difficult weather conditions - unfortunatelty, for job related reasons we are not able to change the timing.

Would someone be so kind and help us find a route and/or give advice on which destinations would be suitable given our preferences (see below) and the weather? We are pretty sure about what we hope our trip to be like but we simply do not know how to put it all together.

Bangkok would be our starting point as we have been there before and loved it. We would like to spend 2-3 nights there again. We would probably fly home from somewhere else (maybe Vietnam - how about Ho Chi Minh City? But that's still flexible). It's not about the start and the end. We are struggling at connecting those two points...

We would first like to relax at a beach for 4-5 nights. We thought of Koh Chang and surroundings. We are also considering to include a second stop later on the trip for another 2-3 nights to chill-out at the 4000 islands in Laos. We understand there will be daily showers or maybe even a full day of rain, but we shall be able to cope with that.

A second element of the trip should be cultural and historical sights. We have been to Angkor so would not like to see that again, but we would love to include something fascinating in terms of culture. We would also be interested in visiting one of the battlefields of the 20th century.

Last, we are in a good shape so would like to include some element of exercise out in the country if it is not impossible given the humidity and heat. We hear the southern Mekong area was all green and beautiful during that time of the year. Maybe someone has a suggestion for destinatons on the way where we could do daytrips through nature.

We are in our early 30s but we do not need booze and party...

Thank you

Anna and Philipp

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I plan on motorbiking from Hanoi down to Ho Chi Min city too which should be fun!

I agree w/ mr moto's comment. The fun would be combined with intervals of terror. In addition to the dangerous traffic on the roads, you also have such an intense concentration of aggressive motorbike drivers in the cities that the traffic is both nightmarish and physically dangerous. Much better to use buses/trains and rent bikes to explore local more rural areas.

Really you're going to have a lot of decisions to make on your route. Starting in Vietnam, do you want to include Laos, or northern Thailand or Myanmar? if so your trip across SE Asia will make a giant zigzag.

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We paied our accom on Principe in Euros, I'm sure your host will exchange a small ammount to Dobra so that you can pay in the small restaurants with them, I wouldn't expect him to change several 100,-- €, but you can ask.

We did a tour on Pricipe that was arranged through our host and we paied in €, during the tour we visited some of the higher end hotels and all of them accepted € as payment, we didn't need to many Dobras on Principe.

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Thanks so much again, guys! I was indeed tempted by the cheaper accommodations. It seems everything is quite expensive on the small islands down there. I remember staying on the - back then - remote side of Phi Phi for 12 Euros a night. But well, that's 10 years ago..Any recommendations on the other direction? We were pondering going to Kao Sok, then we'd actually be closer to quite some other destinations the way I see it. Our flight back is from Krabi again, though.
Sorry for keeping you busy - but you seem to be the experts. If you ever need information on volunteer programs in the Americas or Indonesia or anything about Europe, let me know :)

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Extensive List of Vegan Options in Laos

Hi guys, I am looking into Laos food as a vegan. I've learned you should say: “kin jae” but should I also prepare a laminated text card to carry around with me, with the Lao script listing all the food additives I'm looking to avoid? For example:

-Looking to avoid the fish sauce, (naam pa)
*and what is the difference between naam pa and padek?
-Looking to avoid shrimp paste (khoung?).
-Looking to avoid MSG as well (Paeng Nua?).
-Looking to avoid the greasy standard Vegetable oil (Naam-man pheut)? Possible?
-Looking to avoid Oyster sauce as well (but don't know how to say that in Lao)?

How do I ask them to prepare the fried rice, stir fry noodles, or noodle soup without all of the above additives? Or is it just not possible? Perhaps a soy sauce base (Naam sayuu?) and that should help eliminate the need to add the other sauces?

I don't like going to vegan restaurants because they are overpriced, smaller portions, a little trendy, and full of non-locals. That is why I'm asking for help to modify the mainstream options to make them as vegan as possible.

I am not too serious about my veganism when on holiday. But, I just don't like the taste of animal products in general.

*I am OK to with Spicy (Pet). Even extra spicy is OK.

I'm listing a few dishes I'd like to try, please let me know if they will be safe to eat. And I also have some additional questions listed below. Thanks!

Jaew mak khua -roasted eggplant dip.
Jeow Mak Lin. roasted sweet tomatoes with garlic, onions and herbs.
*Avoid Jaew bong, Jeow som.
Khua pak bong - stir fried water spinach.
Yaw jeun - fried spring roll (watch the egg (khai) and oil used). How do I know?
Tam mak guh - spicy plantain salad.
Tum mak khua - spicy eggplant salad.
Tam mak taeng - spicy cucumber salad (watch the shrimp paste).
Tam mak thua - spicy green long/yard beans salad.
Khao poon (fermented rice noodles). This coconut curry served over fermented rice noodles is flavoured with galangal, lemongrass and chills. How do you say Coconut in Lao? I am ok with coconut milk.
What is Kaeng galee - Lao soup curry?
Kaeng Naw Mai - a green stew made with bamboo shoots.
"Or" - green vegetable stew. Or lam - Luang Prabang style green vegetable stew.
Sai & Seen & Som are meat based foods (avoid).
CHICKEN kai BEEF Ngua PORK Muu FISH Pa (avoid).
Ping means grilled (probably avoid).
What is Khao khua (?)
And how do you say veggies? puk, phaak or phat?
Laotian-styled fried rice. Khao jao or khao neung?
Khao lam - a sweet sticky rice dish made with red beans, coconut, coconut milk, and sugar prepared in bamboo. I like deserts.
Khao niao mak muang - sticky rice with coconut and mango.
Khanom kok - coconut dumpling made on a griddle.
Nam van - tapioca and various fruits including durian, jack fruit, and water chestnuts.
Sangkaya - custard made with Kabocha, a type of Asian squash.
Nam oi - sugarcane juice.
Nam pun - Smoothie (watch the additives). 100% pure, possible?
Nam mak pow - coconut juice; with or without coconut meat.
*Looking to avoid condescend milk, but like the 100% Lao coffee (kaafe thung?)
Saa - Laotian tea (especially mulberry or the healthier green tea varieties)
Namkhong Special - is a sticky black rice beer. Where to find?
Nom som is or frozen sour milk dessert (bitter frozen yogurt?) rubber banded in a small plastic bag.
Thot Mak Ew is deep-fried pumpkin. It is cut into cubes before being stir-fried with chilies, garlic, onions (watch the shrimp paste). What is the word for shrimp paste?
What is the word for meat stock? meat broth? How do you say Fish flakes?
How do I ask to replace Condensed milk with coconut milk?
Or Vegetable oil for coconut, sesame (or another oil)? If possible?
Yaw Dip are fresh spring rolls – rice paper outsides filled with vegetables, salad and sometimes noodles (avoid the noodles because they could have egg in them.)
Clear see-through rice noodles are usually vegan, right?
Gaeng Nor Mai? What is it?
Soop Pak. Sour, herb and vegetables filled mix with sesame seeds. A local version with cashew tree leaves. The vegetables are typically blanched, mixed with herbs, and the most necessary ingredient is a huge amount of sesame seeds to wrap it all together and give it its unique nutty taste.
Steamed sticky rice cakes.
And is there any noodle soup that is 100% vegan?
Pha Khao Lao? What is it? (recommended)?
How do I say pumpkin or squash?

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HOTELS
Hotels in Pakistan are much more expensive than elsewhere in South Asia and, at any given price range, there just aren’t many options from which to choose. Also, a lot of hotels did not even respond to email inquiries. These hotels probably aren’t at all used to dealing with foreigners. We generally stay at mid-range (3*) type of places, and this is where we selected:
Lahore – Hotel One Downtown. The location is very convenient to the walled city and the major tourist sites, it is apparently a well-regarded Pakistani chain. The room itself was very clean and comfortable. They upgraded us to a deluxe room, which was very large. There did not seem to be any other mid-range hotels that were conveniently situated for tourist purposes. While hotel is close to the tourist sites, the hotel it is rather creepy and seems isolated. The hotel is on a desolate street and occupies several floors in what appears to be a deserted office building. We thought we were the only ones staying in the entire hotel until the last night, when we happened to run into another tourist (whom I know from travel forums) who also thought he was the only one staying there. Separately, it was really weird that the included breakfast was served in the room, but there was no menu and we were to tell the breakfast guy (who barely spoke any English) what we wanted without having any idea what was available. We booked directly with the hotel by email, and paid 4999 PKR + 16% tax per night.
Islamabad – Hill View Hotel. This was a mid-range hotel that seemed to be a popular upscale hotel for local businessmen. The room was spacious and everything worked properly, and there were tons of staff around. The buffet breakfast was fairly extensive and tasty. The hotel is centrally located in Islamabad, not that there is much in the way of tourist sites. Our main complaint is that we got woken up at ~4am by a seemingly nearby call to prayer, but luckily we fell back asleep. We could not get a response to our emails, and booked through ATP for $73 for the one night.
Karachi – Hotel Mehran. We didn’t actually stay there because we didn’t make it to Karachi (see above), but this was our choice of a mid-range hotel that had good reviews and seemed similar in quality to the type of places we generally choose.
FOOD
Pakistani food was great. Street food is everywhere, and we ate almost exclusively street food so we could see what we were getting and not have to deal with any menu miscommunication. Pakistani food is similar enough to Northern Indian food, with a big emphasis on meats. The sweets (similar to Indian sweets) are delicious and all over. Fresh squeezed juices are also great. And the street food is dirt cheap – most street food items were probably the equivalent of ten or twenty cents.
We thankfully did not get sick it all, but we were careful what we ate and took the usual recommended precautions.
The food is very heavy and the vast majority of food is fried and/or drenched in oil. We noticed that a good portion of the Pakistanis – men, women, and even children -- are overweight or even downright obese. This certainly wasn’t at all the case elsewhere in the Subcontinent. We weren’t sure if Pakistani food is less healthy or if the Pakistanis are just better off and can afford more food.
GETTING AROUND WITHIN THE CITIES
We heavily relied on Uber to get around within cities. Uber was extremely convenient because it eliminated the language barrier of having to communicate our destination to a taxi driver who likely didn’t speak much English, if any. It also saved us the headache of negotiating fares, dealing with scammy taxi driver shenanigans, etc. It’s worth obtaining cellular data access in order to use Uber.
Uber offers both regular taxis (sedans) and tuk-tuks. We used either, depending on where we were going. It’s faster to take a tuk-tuk for short distances in congested areas, especially near the walled city. A sedan is more comfortable for longer journeys.
As previously mentioned in the Wagah border crossing section, Uber and Careem do not work at the Wagah border. The only time we took regular (non-Uber) taxis was twice at the Wagah border (entering the country, and returning from the ceremony). The taxi mafia is awful at the Wagah border, as previously discussed.
FLIGHTS (PAKISTAN AIR)
Pakistan Air (PK) is a totally unreliable mess of a third-world airline. As previously mentioned (see Basic Itinerary), we showed up at ISB airport to find that our Pakistan Air (PK) to KHI had been cancelled. We have no idea why the flight was cancelled, but it supposedly had been cancelled three days prior. We looked online the afternoon of the flight, and it showed an on time departure. PK “said” they tried calling to notify us of the cancellation, which I don’t necessarily believe. PK certainly did not email us using the email that was on file and used to purchase the tickets. Absolutely unacceptable.
The next flight to KHI was not departing ISB until 10am the next morning, which would have put us at our hotel in Karachi until 1pm or so, thereby ruining two thirds of the day. After two unpleasant day trips in Pakistan with lousy guides and drivers, we weren’t looking forward to our day trip with a driver in Karachi. We then made a decision to call AA and change our QR award flight from KHI-DOH to leave the next morning from ISB-DOH.
We asked the PK agents at ISB to provide us with a hotel room for the night since it was 10pm and they left us stranded, and they refused. A nice young Pakistani woman who spoke perfect English overheard what was going on. She took sympathy on us and told us that PK is awful and not to let the airline be a reflection of the rest of Pakistan, and she argued with them and got them to agree to give us a hotel room.
The PK station manager took us into his office to get our tickets refunded and get us booked into a hotel. This guy was one biggest buffoons we’ve ever dealt with, and made American DMV workers seem highly competent. We figured that he must have got his job through family connections. We sat around for two hours watching him try to send emails to people to request refunds for our tickets. He kept doing nonsensical things like putting our PNR in the “To:” field of the email, and seemed totally confused why Microsoft Outlook was giving him an error message when he tried to send the email. We tried offering to him, and he just wouldn’t listen.
We got so tired of the station manager that we figured it’d be morning by the time he arranged our hotel. We figured we’d just try to check in early for our flight and sleep in the elite lounge. We told him that we were going to the bathroom, took all our stuff, and never saw him again.
Six weeks later, PK still hasn’t fully refund our tickets despite dozens of emails back and forth and saying they’re working on it and assuring us that it will be done. More incompetence from PK. We disputed the charges with our credit card issuer in order to protect ourselves in case the refund never comes through, which we suspect won’t.
For what it’s worth, QR’s check-in counters were open for the 3am flight to DOH but they would not let us drop off our bags for our 9am flight so that we could head to the air-side lounge. However, the QR agent directed us to sleep in a secured and private VIP section of the airport with nice leather couches. It turned out to be a much more comfortable night’s sleep than what the lounge would have been.

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Thanks for the advice, that's great. Perhaps I'll reconsider Pai. Have you been - if so, what's it like? I've heard mixed reviews.

What other places in the Chiang Mai area would you recommend? I'm thinking of perhaps doing a hilltribe trip.

I think you're right - visiting less places will be more enjoyable overall. Thanks again.

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So, planning first trip to Vietnam and having turned my LP guide into a dog-eared mess of Post-It notes and highlighted passages, I figured it was time to ask for a bit of feedback. Me: 'senior' (hate that term except maybe for the occasional discount!) but still backpacking budget guy).

Figuring on 3 weeks, going from Ho Chi Min City to Hanoi. Tentative stops on this route so far:

Ho Chi Min City – 3 nights (need the first at least to connect brain and GI system)
Dalat – 2 nights
Kon Tum – 3 nights
Hue – 2 nights
Vinh Long (home stay) 3 nights
Ha Long Bay / Cat Ba Island – 2 nights
Hanoi – 2 nights

Being a New York City guy, I have almost zero interest in large metro areas, but figure HCMC stay is necessary for first few days and Hanoi because there are a few places there I do want to see. and doubling back seems a waste.

I am also a hopeless foodie and want to sample as great a variety of eatables as possible in the time I am there.

I am figuring on travel by train and bus with overnight rides if that works and allowing a few unplanned days just because I know that the best of plans.......and so on.

Anyway, feedback on the above most appreciated

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I pseudo agree but am writing this from Thailand!! Not for AC... ..... Should be i agree, but Thailand is the land of the rip off these days.. ... I was originally going to say 1000 but prices are just insane... People dont think twice about paying, 600 for a crap bungalow with fan....... Better to go with a higher budget and be surprised then think OMG, i didnt bring enough..... Clearly its based on where you are... Eg.. Koh chang(burma side) vs phi phi........ OP you are in for a shock.... Pm me if you want some ideas that are still like the good ol days!

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An bang beach in Hoi an has holiday cottages to let, and would tick my box for a winter escape over an apartment in Ho chi Minh. If you want a city base, Nha Trang or Danang might suit you, as the beach is on your doorstep.

Personally, I would want to check somewhere out in person, before I committed to a long term stay.

With 2 months in Vietnam, and so much to see, I wouldn't choose to be based in any one place, but if I found somewhere perfect for me, would happily stay put for a couple of weeks. Flexibility is the key, and there is no point in renting an apartment in Ho chi Minh, if you find out in week 2 that you would rather be in Mue ne or Phu quoc.

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