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Mike, do not be too surprised to find that travel agents are not much interested in helping you as an independent traveller other than selling you an airfare

It is extremely good advice that you visit one of the specialist travel agents in Melbourne City.

Unlike some parts of the country that remain plain vanilla, Melbourne has hundreds of thousands of Chinese (and other Asian) residents, students, and visitors, and a good TA will know every trick in the book regarding entry and visa requirements for lots of countries.

I would definitely consider it as Plan A, rather than relying on online resources, or indeed much of this thread.

Regarding entry to Russia and the Trans Siberian Railway, there may be special dispensations for foreign passengers. We have visited Russia on a cruise - and we had virtually no visa requirements at all.

And OP I refer you to post #26.

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Hi. Did that trip back in 2015 (Moscow-Irkutsk-Uaanbaatar).
It's definitely worth spending 4 nights in Siberia. 1 or 2 nights in Irkutsk then off to Lake Baikal. We hiked the first leg of the Great Baikal Trail from Listvianka to Bolshie Koty which is well recommended! Great scenery, places to cool down and swim. Nice village. To go to Olkhon would be a bit stressful if you just have 4 nights. But well planned I think it's doable.
I guess it makes more sense for you to take the train in Irkutsk. Don't know if there is a boat that would take you to the east side of the lake. We took a boat from Bolshyie Koty to Listvianka and then to Irkutsk, all in 1 day.
If you want to spend the 4 days in Mongolia instead really depends on your interest. I wouldn't. Note that travelling in Mongolia can be time consuming. So think carefully how you could extend your tour in Mongolia with just a few more days. And even though I enjoyed every minute on the train crossing Russia, it's nice to break the journey after 3 days.

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yes Seat 61 is good place to get info; also it is easy to book your own train tkt on Trans SIberian online "https://pass.rzd.ru/timetable/public/en?STRUCTURE_ID=729"
If you really need to consult with a tourist office then Real Russia "http://realrussia.co.uk/"
You can get info on the ferry to Japan here "http://www.dbsferry.com/eng/main/main.asp" again you can book online yourself

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Wow, 14 weeks; I wish it were me...
I wouldn't focus too much on these 12 days x 7. Instead maybe have a general plan like about 1 month for the Iberian peninsula, 1 month Italy and 1 month Greece (even with 14 weeks, you won't be able to see it all and you'll have to make choices). With that framework in mind, go to your first destination and you can adapt how long you stay there on how much you like it. If you don't like it, simply move on.
Best places to meet other travellers would be in hostels (mainly in cities). Or young people party places like Ios in Greece.
July and August will be high season of course, so you might want to check room availability and book a few days in advance (I travel with a 7 inch tablet for those purposes these days). For transport, in your case, don't bother with rail passes; you will be best off with a combination of buses, local trains, boats and maybe 1 or 2 flights.
Don't overstay your 90 days in Schengen.
Have fun !

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Hi everyone,
I would really appreciate some help from someone who’ve already done this journey. I’ve spent half my day off trying to figure this out by myself (can’t be that hard, right?!), but I haven’t found any clear answers on the Internet, and the Russian Embassy in Norway don’t answer their phone.

I’m hoping to travel with the Trans- Siberian railway next year. The plan is to start in St. Petersburg and finish in Beijing about a month later. Now, the challenge for me is applying for the visa. According to the Russian Embassy I need an “invitation” from the hotel I’m staying in, but during my travel I’ll stay in several. Does anybody know if I have to get this invitation from every single hotel? If that is the case I’ll have to make an excruciatingly detailed itinerary- and stick to it! Is that really necessary? Or do I only need an invitation from the first hotel, in my case in St. Petersburg.

Also they request the ticket for my flight out of Russia, but I’m crossing the Russian-Mongolian border by train, and I don’t know exactly what date that’ll be. Again, is an excruciatingly detailed itinerary necessary?

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Hi guys

We (4 x late twenties) have WC tickets on June 16 in Kazan. We've got 2-3 weeks and would like to spend some time seeing:
1. the two major cities (Moscow, St Petersburg)
2. Historical/small town Russia e.g. Kazan (for the muslim architecture), Sergiev Posad, Suzdal, Veliky Novgorod, etc.
3. We'd LOVE to see some part of the trans siberian railway too if time allows. Baikal lake, Altai mountains, etc.

Rough itinerary is below, though I'd be happy to scrap it and start again if your advice points that way! We enjoy food, history, architecture and nature.

June 7 Moscow
June 8 Moscow
June 9 Moscow
June 10 Moscow
June 11 Moscow

To visit Suzdal as a day trip the most practical option is to take direct morning bus from Moscow to Suzdal. They depart from Moscow Central Bus Terminal (Щелковский автовокзал). To reach it, you can use the metro. To buy your tickets use Infobus website: https://infobus.eu/en .

To return back to Moscow there are no practical direct options, but the best option is to take a short ride by local bus to Vladimir and from there take a train to Moscow. The best train for you would be fast Lastochka (Ласточка) train departing from Vladimir at 20:15 and arriving in Moscow at 22:10.

June 12 Suzdal

To visit Sergiyev Posad, just use a suburban train (so called elektrichka - электричка). There are plenty of elektrichkas departing from Yaroslavskaya station. Logistically very convenient day trip. To return to Moscow,the very same thing.

June 13 Sergiev Posad

Train from Moscow to Kazan.

June 14 Kazan
June 15 Kazan
June 16 Kazan - WC GAME DAY

Unfortunately, it seems that you didn't catch a ticket on a free fan train that departs the day after the match to Moscow. That would be definitely the most convenient having in mind that the flight tickets are relatively expensive between Kazan and Sankt Peterburg. By the way, I don't recommend Veliky Novgorod on the day you have planned. This town should be done as a day trip from Sankt Peterburg.

June 17 Veliky Novgorod

The most convenient option to visit Veliky Novgorod is from Sankt Peterburg. Do it on some of the days bellow my text. The best option is to do it using eletrichkas. They are not numerous at all, but are practical. Take a train (elektrichka) at 07:26 from Sankt Peterburg - Glavny (alternatively called Moskovsky railway station) to Veliky Novgorod (keep in mind that the station that you will use in Veliky Novgorod is called Novgorod-Na-Volhove - Новгород-на-Волхове). The train arrives in Veliky Novgorod at 10:17. This allows you nice time to explore this historically very important Russian town and in the evening at 18:06 you will take a train back to Sankt Peterburg where it arrives at 20:55.

June 18 St Petersburg
June 19 St Petersburg
June 20 St Petersburg
June 21 St Petersburg

Questions:
1. Does Moscow or St Petesburg need more time? How many days in each city would you recommend? We like museums but dont want to overload. Prefer a chilled trip of eating, some museums, music, and people watching :)

Not really. I think you have allotted optimal number of days to both Moscow and Sankt Peterburg. Here you have to keep in mind the day of June 17th. I think this day could be a bit problematic. OK, you will see the option and latter we can discuss what could be done regarding your transfer from Kazan to Sankt Peterburg. Or, maybe you plan to fly using Nordavia in the evening of June 16th?

  1. Sergiev Posad, Suzdal, Veliky Novgorod - > are all of these very different and worth visiting?

They are really different. Sergiyev Posad is famous for basically one, but impressive complex and it is Trinity Lavra of St. Sergius (Свято-Троицкая Сергиева Лавра). This is the very central and the most important place of Russian Christianity. Suzdal is totally different because it has a fairy tale appearance. It has kremlin, but also outside of it. Everywhere you look, you can see churches, monasteries and beautiful tame nature around Kamenka river. In reality, Suzdal is a big village and something the closest to the Russian countryside that someone may imagine based on old romantic stories. Veliky Novgorod is different from the mentioned two because it is a town with a bit more than 200.000 inhabitants and its attractions are somewhat dispersed although the top ones are within the kremlin (locally called Detinets). Veliky Novgorod has more emphasized town look with architectural achievements that dot the entire town. By the way, it is very practical and convenient to orientate when you are there. Please, have in mind that one of the greatest attractions near Veliky Novgorod, Vitoslavitsy Museum of Folk Wooden Architecture, is open, but the best details, including the church and some other details are under maintenance and renovation works, so just a portion is now available for real exploration.

  1. How many days would we need to squeeze in a bit of Siberia? Which areas would you recommend?

Honestly, you really don't have enough time to experience the Transiberian. Of course, you could do it somehow, but you have a match in Kazan and you also want to see and experience Moscow and Sankt Peterburg in the end. In my opinion, leave it now as it is, concentrate on the Russian European part and if it turns that you liked the country, you could return in the future.

  1. Is our itinerary looking ok time and logistics wise? We're looking at overnight train from moscow to kazan, then fly to St Petersburg. The towns (Sergiev Posad, Suzdal, Veliky Novgorod) we're probably going to do as day trips. Thank you!!

Your itinerary is really good, balanced and logical. It will allow you nice Russian experience. The only, a bit problematic detail is logistical issue, i.e. transfer from Kazan to Sankt Peterburg after the match. Of course, it will be resolved :-).

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To qualify the safety-related statements in the previous post - I am a 35-year old experienced independent male British traveller who has visited almost 100 countries. Over many trips and many years I have travelled overland from England to PNG, including crossing Indonesia by Pelni ferry over 5 months and 4 trips, each of which included independent travel around West Papua. I have travelled in several countries colored red on government travel advice sites where they advise against all travel, such as Afghanistan, the Mauritanian desert, northern Mali, southern Mindanao in the Philippines. I have been running a tour operator business in Arctic Siberia for the last 8 years. So although I do not have much experience in PNG, I do know a bit about independent travel in remote areas. I may, however, have a higher tolerance for risk than other travelers. I followed the security situation in the PNG Highlands for months before my trip and constantly asked locals what they thought about the safety of my proposed route during my time in PNG. Sometimes I changed my plans based on their advice, for example deciding not to take an overnight betel nut PMV from Madang to Mt Hagen and thereby losing 24 hours in Madang. I might have made some mistakes, however, such as traveling overland from Mendi to Tari and arriving at night, but that might also have just been local people worrying too much based on past incidents. And I think that if you could travel from Mendi to Tari during the day with a good local driver it would be safe.

Prices

Don’t expect value for money for anything in PNG. Expect to pay ridiculous prices for terrible accommodation with terrible service. Expect to pay slightly less ridiculous prices for public transport where they will throw in more people than you would think physically possible and which might not even depart on the right day if they do not get enough passengers. After South East Asia, this is going to be a shock to the system and is not really doable on a shoestring budget. In most places you can find dorm accommodation for $10 - $20 a night but it is of a VERY low standard compared to what you would get for the same price in South East Asia. If going for private hotel rooms you can pay $100 a night and get a single bed in a room with moldy walls, a broken shower, no free breakfast or internet, no shuttle bus and staff who do not even know local taxi numbers.

HOWEVER: some of the tour prices often quoted on this and other forums, or quoted by guides / tour companies over the internet if you try to organize everything in advance, are simply ludicrous even by PNG standards. I found this particularly true for Sepik River tours, which can be organized much cheaper on the spot.

Transport

Feel free to take PMVs. It’s a bit uncomfortable, you may end up waiting for a while, but if you’re on a budget it’s much cheaper than flying and is a great adventure in itself. You’ll meet loads of friendly people who will help you with the next stage of your journey and will see parts of PNG that most people fly over and miss out. It’s mostly very safe, other than parts of the Highlands Highway at night as mentioned above. Make sure you always get the first PMV in the morning and plan to arrive at your destination several hours before dark.

PMVs run almost every day between most obvious destinations, but get a bit less frequent on Friday afternoons, even less on Saturdays and are almost non-existent on Sundays. If you have a long way to go, the earlier you get there the better. In general try to head to the PMV stop or boat launch as soon as it gets light.

If you want to save money, have a flexible schedule and are the sort of person who likes meeting locals and seeing the country rather than hopping between certain set destinations then PMVs are a good way to go.

If you want to visit as many actual destinations in as short a period of time as possible and money is not an issue then you should probably stick to flying, although flights are not always completely reliable either from what I heard.

What to bring

For the Sepik - mainly just sunscreen and a hat for when traveling by canoe down the river. I didn’t find it necessary to bring food, water and mosquito net as others have recommended, as these were provided everywhere. Most villages have a container to collect rain water, a shop selling rice, noodles, tinned fish, biscuits, etc (although prices are up to 1.5 times more than in Wewak) and all the guest houses I saw had mosquito nets. If going to more remote communities than the villages within 2 - 3 hours of Pagwi then you may need to bring this all with you though. Also bring a torch and some kind of power block, as most places don’t have electricity to charge your camera. Bring very light clothing. You only ever feel comfortable when traveling by boat or at night. At other times it is almost unbreathably hot and humid.

For the Highlands - again sunscreen. Secondly some good footwear for walking. Probably trekking sandals are best, so that you can easily cross rivers and swamps. Around Tari and Koroba I didn’t ever find the need for warm clothing or even a jacket in the evenings as it is not too high up, during the day it is quite warm and I never spent much time outdoors at night anyway. If you are going higher up, like Enga Province or climbing Mt Wilhelm then of course you’ll need warm clothing.

Buy a Digicel SIM card as soon as you arrive and buy a data plan if you need internet. As I do a lot of work online while travelling I paid 230 kina for 10 gigabytes that lasts 30 days then another 25 kina per week for a call and texts bundle (60 minutes of calls and several hundred texts). Everywhere I went had internet that was good enough to use my iPhone as a modem for my laptop, upload files, watch films online, etc, apart from the Sepik villages and remote villages in Tari area. These places did not even have mobile reception.

Tribal traditions

On the Sepik nobody wears traditional dress other than when paid to do so by tourists. Some guides said they may do on remote tributaries like the April and May rivers, but I took this with a pinch of salt as I had done a lot of pre-trip research and seen no photos of such people. Kids are always running around naked and a few women will go around topless occasionally but that’s about it in terms of naked tribespeople.

In Tari and Koroba in the Highlands a few old people still walk around the villages in traditional dress. Traditional dress also seems to be worn for sing sings and other special events (ie not just the ones paid for by tourists), whereas on the Sepik I witnessed a sing sing (ie not one that I paid for) and everyone was in Western clothes.

However, other aspects of their traditions have been extremely well preserved - for example the architecture in every village on the Sepik and in remote Highlands villages, the art on the Sepik, and the wingmen culture in Tari. The fact that young men still go through the wig growing process with a teacher, and so many men own wigs, suggests that this bizarre and fascinating aspect of their culture is still alive to some extent and not done only for tourists.

Guides told me that in the remotest areas, such as the Hewa tribe area, Sepik - Enga border area or other border areas between two provinces far from regional centers and road networks, you can still find very remote people living in caves and with some people dressing traditionally. I have no way to confirm that of course - maybe something to explore on my next trip! My guide from the Sepik said that it’s possible to trek up into Enga Province from the Karawari River ( a tributary of the Sepik) in a few days. Probably take that to mean at least a week.

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taxis have set fares per time rather than via kilometre - taxis are very safe and hospitable, I left my passport in taxi in Vlad. last year, driver found later and drove back to my hotel to return it. Yes get into any taxi ie one that has taxi sign on it. The ferry terminal is in centre of town near the Vladivostok (Trans Siberian) railway station so depending where you are staying you may be able to walk to your hotel.

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Maybe it's a good opportunity to travel along Trans-Siberian way? Making 1-day stops in Vladimir (with a tour to Suzdal), Nizhniy Novgorod, Kazan, Ekaterinburg, Ulan-Ude (maybe with a tour to the Baikal). Then take Trans-Mongolian train till Bejin. I think it's possible to do within 14 days. Bet it will be unforgettable.

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I did not see the Gobi Desert in the winter. I did the Ulan Bator to Beijing route in October, 1984. I saw no snow. I did see quite a bit of snow in late May, 1978, my first trip on the Trans-Siberian.

All of this is recommended. Do it while you can. You will not regret it.

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