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We're looking to travel to India in Feb with our nearly 3 and 5 year old. I've done a fair bit of research and chatted to people about recommended areas to visit and narrowed it down to these two. Would love a bit of intel as to whether this is going to be too much (probably) bearing in mind we have our kids with us. We only have two weeks. And also would love to know if you came with young kids, what were the things they enjoyed the most, and what they hated. I imagine they'll like more 'normal' things like the rickshaws and seeing cows wandering about, the train rides rather than exploring temples. They also love elephants, doing crafts, generally running about the countryside - the usual boy stuff. We'd prefer more rural areas or small towns. Cities will just be too hectic I think with the kids.

1) Delhi (not bothered about staying here except for jet lag/chill 1 day)-Agra (1 day for Taj Mahal)-Jaipur for Dera Amer Ele rehab camp (2 day, not fussed by Jaipur)-Ramthambhore NP (2 days - is it worth going? chance of seeing tigers?)-Udaipur(4 days - any recommendations for here? Or is this too long?)-Jaisalmer (3 days desert camping/exploring)-Delhi and home. Any amazing off the beaten track villages or spots to not miss? Maybe we should do it the other way round and finish with Taj Mahal?

I'd also love to get up to Rishikesh and Jodphur but not sure how to cram that in! Worth it over any of the other places mentioned? I've heard Rishikish especially is a lovely place to visit with young children. Lots for them to see and do, but fairly relaxed. Plus I'd like to do at least one yoga class.

2) Kochi/Fort Cochin (2 days)-Backwaters (3 days)-Kovalam (3 days)-Periyar NP (2 days - is this worth it?)-Western Ghats (3 days Are the Mannar tea plantations good? what about the two tiger reserves here - Anamali and Parambikulam?)-Kochi and home. We thought maybe doing it this way round might ease us in easier?

Here I'd like to go further up and in to Hampi - worth it?! How?! Is it doable? What should we cut out?

We'll be travelling independently though will book everything in advance. Quite fancy some train action, but I suspect we may well hire a private car as well.

Thanks very much and sorry if I've been really dumb - it's very hard to do this when you've no real idea of distances etc.

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Yes you need a guide because, out off the "beaten paths", it is maze of trails ; besides, a lot of excellent but small homestays are not on the main trails (for example the one of Olivier Sapa) and you will not find them , especially because a lot of them are not even signaled. Finally, many locals speak no English, so, how to you get answers to questions or requests for direction ?

The best agency I know is Nomad Trails, ex-Sapatrek

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That's them in both cases. If you can find the Google "sites" page for the hotel there is a bunch of good info there. Hotel should be around $8-$10 no aircon but few places in DaLat have AC because it's at 1500mts elevation so cool enough most days.
You might try going north when you leave DaLat to Buon Ma Thuot (BIG coffee area) and on to Pleiku before heading to HoiAn on the coast. That keeps you inland but you miss Nha Trang beaches. Everyone goes to Nha Trang and few go to BMT and Pleiku so that's your choice, off the beaten track or down The Banna Pancake trail.

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Hi,
We had a great trip!
Angola is an awesome country to travel in. Very nice and helpful people and easy public transport. Although transport to sights off the beaten track is pricey, as you need to hire a driver.
We did stay at Residential DB in Luanda, thanks for the advice. It was a good starting point, within walking distance from most places in the city center.
During the two weeks, we made it to Namibe and the Namibe desert, Lubango, Benguela, Kalandula Falls Pedras Negras and the Shipwreck Beach. All very recommendable 
As for budget accommodation, not many places exist on the internet, but in most cities, you can find hotels by walking around town.
We stayed in:
- Diversi Lodge in Namibe: nice, cheap and friendly location right by the beach
- Novo Hotel in Lubango: 3* business hotel at an ok price
- Nancys Guesthouse in Benguela: with Nancy as a very friendly and helpful host
- Hotel do Cacuso in Cacuso: cheap and probably the only place in town
- Hotel Miradouro in N'dalatando: Cheaper than the 5* across the street
- Kwanza Lodge, at the Kwanza River: Beautiful location right at the mouth of the river
- Residential DB in Luanda: Good central location
- Flamingo lodge in the Namibe desert: Great place, far out in the desert, right on the beach
Kind regards,
Jette

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We will have 2 days in February on the end of a ski trip and would like to go somewhere not too far off the track between Tokyo and Nagano. We are a family of 4 with 2 adult sons (not so interested in art!) We have been to Japan a few times before so have been to Kyoto and Osaka. I was wondering about Nagoya or Yokohama and would appreciate any suggestions.

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Sure,there are a lot of tourists in Bali.There are some places that have few or no tourists even there,but most places of interest/beauty will have tourists.

As Giora mentions there are lots of other possibilities,and all the other islands have fewer tourists than Bali does.Flores maybe combined with Komodo/Rinca is a good suggestion.Labuanbajo is the most touristy town on Flores but even there it is less busy than most of the Balinese hotspots.

If you want even fewer tourists,another possibility would be further east from Flores...Lembata,Alor area.That is pretty well off the beaten track for most westerners.Or Sumba,south of Flores? There really are so many options in Indonesia...

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My hubbie and I and our twin 15 yr old boys have 2-3 weeks most likely in August to travel. We want an authentic, off-the beaten path experience with wineries, rural places to stay, wineries, beaches, biking. We enjoy talking to a local for 2 hours sipping wine rather than seeing some famous statue....but also want our teenagers to have things to do.

1)Can anyone recommend Vis or Korcula? We love beaches but is this the best way to explore Croatia? Are either a good base for an off-the beaten experience with the option of easily taking day trips if we want? Would you say these islands are crowded with tourists or inhabited by locals? Recommendations for day trips? We like staying in one place and getting to know it well and taking day trips rather than moving around.

2)Or is staying inland at Motovan a better base to explore an authentic off the beaten path experience of Istria and take day trips from there? From my research this town is very small but is it easily accessible to a nearby beach? We are not drivers (We live in Manhattan & do not own a car; we don't like driving); we prefer exploring things by foot or taking scenic drives via train or someone else driving us.

3) If Vis or Korcula are recommended what is the most economical way to get there? Where to fly to from NYC? if an inland town is recommended where to fly from NYC?

Thank you!

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Of course, it's a matter of personal preference. I'm not saying I think Phnom Penh is a nicer city, as I said, it's incredibly dirty but I found the Killing Fields and S21 more interesting than anything in Luang Prabang. When it comes to Hoi An I think it just doesn't live up to the hype. By saying it's not authentic I simply mean that it's more just laid on for tourists as opposed to being off the beaten path so you'll see more tourists than locals.

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My first Super Cs (circa 1990)just had 2 drop over hooks, with no locking at all. They did jump off when doing some rough stuff. I used to wrap a bungy round to stop this. https://www.carradice.co.uk/products/accessories/pannier-hooks-4

Carradice then did a strap with a slider at one end that fitted in the alu channel on the pannier and a hook at the other that clipped on the bottom of the rack. This had a tensioner which held the pannier tight and stopped it jumping up. It also acted as an anti sway device.

My latest C's (c2013) have 2 hooks with locking catch. These have never come off. https://www.carradice.co.uk/products/old-man-mountain-racks/carradice-quick-clip-pannier-catches-2

I now see that they now sell the panniers with a combination of the 2 systems. Two simple open hooks and a middle locking one. My locking ones were closed by hand on a ratchet, these new ones seem to be sprung loaded, which are presumably easier, but could fail if the spring goes. https://www.carradice.co.uk/products/accessories/pannier-quick-clip-system

My guess from experience is that if you lock the catch properly, it should work fine. Although if you want, you could replace the 2 hook over clips with locking ones. That should be pretty secure.

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Excellent trip report!
I must admit I am quite shocked by the prices and the spread of eco-tourism in many formerly almost totally unvisited areas.
Sounds like thea Punan Tubu have changed little since my visit - dirty beggars full of open sores trying to squeeze whatever they can out of anyone passing through their area, be it a logging company or the odd tourist.

Even with all the eco-tourism development going on, I am pretty sure that your 2 trips still very much qualify as off the beaten track by any standards.
I guess the high prices reflect that the no doubt still few visitors to these areas are mostly on organized tours. Very few backpackers travel this way.


My info & thoughts:
on East-Indonesia.info: Indonesia, Maluku, West Papua, Raja Ampat & Indonesian Visas
on Thorn Tree: Seeing Orangutans, Kalimantan, Kiribati & Tuvalu
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