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For the vast majority of people on this forum flying is the only option to SEA.

also many of those visiting will want to visit the more touristy places and would be uncomfortable in the non tourist places

fine advice in principle but not so practical

If you're from Australia, Europe or North America, yes you fly to SE Asia but once you've landed at your gateway city, you can travel by land from there. Singapore is an important gateway city for flights from Australia, Europe and North America, while Bangkok serves the same purpose for flights arriving from Australia/NZ and Europe but not North America (since 2015 no airline operates a direct route between Bangkok and North America).

Why would anyone be "uncomfortable" traveling in the non-touristy places? If you don't want to visit non-touristy places, why even come?

I recently met a young American family. First time in Asia. They fly from Kuala Lumpur to Chiang Mai. After a couple of days there to get acclimatized, they catch a bus down to Lampang. Lampang receives the odd foreign traveler but for whatever reason still hasn't made it on the travel radar very much. That's where I meet them. At a very nice authentic Italian restaurant. They rent a car and check out a nearby dam where they go fishing, then they head up to Wat Chaloem Prakiat up on top of a limestone karst in the north of the province. A few days later, they catch a bus down to Tak and head into a national park there. After just over two weeks in Thailand, they fly to Malaysia where their first stop is Penang (yes, a touristy city, but you can escape the crowds quite easily).

Some countries are more suited to "off the beaten track" travel than others, but Thailand is definitely one country where you can have a fantastic time if you skip the done to death tourist haunts and check out some smaller, less well known provinces.

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Thanks Mr Moto. To be honest I haven't done my research on Myanmar, i will look into it after your suggestion!
As i'v already done Thailand I will probably move on pretty quickly and start exploring the rest of SE Asia.

Im glad you say that lacapal, I'm not scared of the rain at all I just don't want it to put a dampener on the scenery!
If it wasn't for the weather I have read about I would probably leave in June and do 6 months, which I'm actually still half tempted to do...

Looking at Laos I think it would be ok to just stay further north (Luang Prabang, Vang Vieng, Vientiane )then fly to Vietnam and go from north- south and into Cambodia?

If anyone has any suggestions of some not to miss places i'd be greatfull! Im more of a jungle person than a beach person, iv found a couple of motor bike routes in north Thailand and Vietnam which look good!

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Check out http://www.hobomaps.com/TravelChiangRai.html and http://www.hobomaps.com/TravelCKHX.html for travel info from Chiang Rai and Chiang Khong, including into Laos. The Hobomaps site in general has very good travel info for northern Laos. Getting from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang the same day is a tall order, unless you take the first bus to Chiang Mai then fly or get to Huay Xai early and take a speed boat. Huay Xai (Laos border) to LP by bus is a good 12 hours, and agree with above Luang Namtha makes a good stopover for a day or two. The road quality varies and is twisty and hilly in places. Suggest to bring extra plastic bags for puking roadsick hilltribe kids, which is part of the classic Lao bus experience. As for Vientiane to Hanoi I would perhaps skip the nitty gritty bus from hell and just "haul ass" on a 1-hour flight. IMHO ;-)

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This is all great to hear, especially the part about the lack of pervasive scams in Vietnam. I think the blogs on which I read about this were written by younger backpackers whose travels were focused in Vietnam's tourist centers (e.g., Sa Pa, Hanoi's Old Quarter, etc.). They may have generalized from their experiences in these places to the country and culture as a whole, which is unfair. I could care less about being overcharged by 5000 dong (~$0.25) for a plate of food. What I want to avoid is a culture, like I experienced in some parts of India a decade ago, where every other transaction turns into a big hassle, and many attempts to talk to someone disintegrate into an attempt to sell something. One thing that really appeals to me about Vietnam right now, beyond the wonderful scenery and back roads for motorbiking, is that the hotels seem like very good value, even relative to Indonesia.

What I'm coming to realize is that there are just too many great places to visit, suitable for my tastes, in the region for a single summer. I'll have to plan to do several trips to the region. I was also told today that there are thriving jazz and creative music scenes nowadays in Bangkok and Chiang Mai, which were not really well developed when I was there long ago, and I want to go check them out. But where to start? I'm not sure. It's great though to have many good options.

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Hi everyone,
I have 9 days in Laos next month, flying in and out of Vientiane, and I'm lost :-)
I want to visit Luang Prabang for sure (2-3 days), then do a little bit of everything (scenery, villages, food, museums...), with about 2 days of fun/relaxation toward the end of the trip, and then 2 days in Vientiane (incl. departure).

Vang Vieng seemed like a good place for fun, with river activities and zip lining. Any other options with convenient access to Vientiane (close by or flying)?

My first 2 days are on the weekend at the end of Chinese new year and during tet holiday in Vietnam, so it doesn't seem like a good idea to fly straight to Luang Prabang. Is there somewhere I could fly to in the north, that would not be overrun by hoards of microphone blazing tour groups? Looking for some quiet place to stay a couple of days before heading to LP or maybe a boat trip to LP.

Thanks for your help!

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Hi,

I am planning a 2,5 month trip around SEA and we are at the moment of planning itinerary that would be more recreational/beach focused, but also we want to focus on finding/seeing/interacting with animals for our kids (5 and 8 year old).

I know this is a broad topic, but we are really now broadly looking around for places to visit: before visiting SEA, we will be in Costa Rica where we plan to visit Jaguar rescue center, sloth sanctuaries, but also "on the way to SEA" visit Hawaii and sea seahorse/octopus farm in Big Island. We also have Sepilok in Borneo for Orangutans.

Are there any other places you would recommend to visit? I know Elephant farm near Chiang Mai, apparently there are various snake farms/centers (Bali has one apparently) and I read somewhere about whale sharks in Cebu (although this is overall a question mark).

I know there are some ethical issues at some of the places, so if there is a possibility to visit the ones that do not mistreat the animals that would be great and I would be super super thankful if this topic does not become mainly about animal abuse, but rather with helpful tips :) Thanks!!!

Bartek

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I will be back in Vietnam for 11 days in July (1st to the 11th) and it's just occurred to me that July 1st is the tentative date that the powers that be might change all the visa arrangements. Since I still have time to get down to the embassy and organize a proper visa if need be, I'm not too worried yet. But I need to know for sure whether or not things are likely to change so can anyone enlighten me? Have the Vietnamese authorities made any proclamation on this issue? Do I need to take a day off work and head to the embassy area or should I just relax?

Secondly: I'm looking for suggestions on what to include in this trip. At the moment; my itinerary looks a bit like this...

July 1st: Fly into Hanoi in the afternoon. Head for hotel in Hoan Kiem area. Eat. Sleep.
July 2nd: Hanoi. Catch up with some friends. Eat.
July 3rd: Fly to Dien Bien Phu. How long does one need in Dien Bien Phu? Will a day be enough?
July 4th: Fly back to Hanoi. Maybe get an evening train South. Where??
July 5th: Dunno.
July 6th: Dunno.
July 7th: Danang. For a football match.
July 8th: Dunno.
July 9th: Dunno.
July 10th: Dunno.
July 11th: Must be in HCMC to fly to BKK.

What can a history/culture junkie do with those unspecified days? OK; I might stay and extra day in Hanoi/Dien Bien Phu and I might have a day on the juice at the Phat Rooster in HCMC on the 10th but I've still got 2 or 3 free days up my sleeve. Where can I go (Keeping in mind that I have been to Halong Bay/Ninh Binh/Sapa/Lao Cai/Hue (Twice)/Hoi An (Twice)/Nga Trang/Da Lat)? Is Hai Phong anything more than a service area to Halong bay? What about Thanh Hoa? Is Vinh worth a stop or is it just another beach? What do you think?


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You are not going to get Certainty..

And I used to live in Bangkok and would do border runs to Cambo, my experience for mainland SE Asia in general is already posted up.

Why don't you reschedule your trip to November December early Jan of this coming year? That is the only time you will be assured of little rain and perfect weather to travel. By the end of Jan, the heat and smog have started to build so there is a window. Saying that the smog is building later this year in Chiang Mai because we have had unseasonable rains in December and then around Christmas and New Year’s. Nice as that cleans out the air and delays the build up. It’s the weather who could have predicted that huh


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I am a 22 year old solo female traveller. I am going to be spending 2 months in SEA (Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia) backpacking. I am coming from Bali, Indonesia where I am volunteering for 6 weeks beforehand. Any feedback on this itinerary draft would be appreciated.

Fly to Chiang Mai – Saturday June 23rd
Week 1:
Northern Thailand
Chiang Mai and around – 8 days

Fly to Hanoi

Week 2-4:
Vietnam
Hanoi -3 days
Night train to Sapa
Sapa – 3 days
Night train to Hanoi
Bus to Halong Bay
Halong Bay – 2 days
Night bus to Ninh Binh
Ninh Binh – 1-2 days
Hue – 2 days
Bike the Hai van pass or take train to Hoi An
Hoi An – 4 days
Overnight bus to Ho Chi Minh City or if really cheap (flight)
Ho Chi Minh City – 3 days

Bus to Phnom Penh -1 day

Week5-6:
Cambodia
Phnom Penh – 2 days
Ealry morning bus to Kampot
Kampot/Kep – 2 days
Early morning bus to Sihanoukville
Sihanoukville – 2 days
Ferry to Koh Rong Island
Koh Rong Island – 2 days
Back to Sihanoukville and catch a night bus to Battambang
Battambang – 2 days
Morning mini bus to Siemp Riep
Siem Riep -3 days

Travel to Bangkok by train or flight – 1 day

Week 7-8:
Thailand
Phuket -2 days
Phi Phi Island -2days
Koh Lanta or Koh Lipe? -3 days
Koh Tao – 3 days
Back to Bangkok - fly home

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So, if anyone interested in "things to be spelt out in every tiny detail".
I just passed the border Thailand-Myanmar
The following are the steps for going from Thailand to Myanmar overland.

...0. First do the electronic visa for Myanmar on https://evisa.moip.gov.mm/ . I did the visa in afternoon and received it the morning after. The visa (as it happens for other e-visa) it's basically a paper that has be print out and presented at Myanmar immigration. On the visa letter is written that you need a train/flight out of Myanmar as well to present to the immigration but nobody at the Myanmar immigration asked that to me.

1.Take a bus to the Thai border town of Mae Sot (in Thailand). I took a minibus from Sukhotai but of course there are bus from Bangkok and other Thai cities as well.

Two2. The minibus in Mae Sot arrives to the bus terminal, about 7km from the border with Myanmar. At this point there are 2 alternatives: I'm being said that from Mae Sot I could take a 15 minutes walk to the market and from there take a songthaew(shared truck) for the 5/6Km left from the Mae Sot market to the border for 20 baht(0.60 dollars). Or: just take a scooter for 100 baht(around 3 dollars). I choose the second option because I felt that for 2.4 dollars less it was not worth the "sbattimento"(very interesting Italian slang word)

Three3.first pass Thai immigration. You give them the departure card (the one on the other side of the one with a stamp they gave you when you arrived), they take a picture of yourself and take your finger prints

Four4.walk over a bridge (the friendship bridge).

Five5.arrive at the Myanmar immigration. First they bring you to a room were 2 "nurse-like" people take you the temperature and put a sticker on the outside of your passport with written "quarantine section Myawaddy"(something like that). My temperature was 36.5. If you have 37.5 or more I guess they bring you to hospital...? Then another booth they give you a kind of arrival paper to fill in .Then a room with 2 immigration officers on a computer that take a picture of you and stamp the e-visa that you print out and they stamp your passport as well.

Six6. Then arrived in Myanmar,for changing your cash to local currency: look for some shop with tables and money counters machines outside. You can also buy a locale Burmese SIM card in some of them.

Seven7.Take a shared van for Mawlamyine: as it happens in other places (I.e. rural areas of China) you have to wait that there are at least 3-5 people for the shared vehicle to leave.
For other places like Yangon there are regular bus as well.

eight8. After passing Myanmar immigration, changing money and buying a local SIM card, it was around 1:30pm and I had to wait a couple of hours for the shared taxi to Mawnlamyine to get full and leave.

nine9. The street between Myawaddy border and Mawlamyine is still (as per March 2020) in construction, so, there is a looooot of dust and a lot of bumps and a lot of working trucks and machines that are slowing you down. The trip will take around 3 hours and half. We passed a couple of what (i guess) were police/immigration checkpoints on the way between Myawaddy border and Mawlamyine but nobody asked for my passport.

Cheers

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