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You might be tempted by this donkey accessory:
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(note - Jamilla means 'Beautiful' (fem.) in Arabic, perfection is a different word).

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Textibule - I like it. :>))

Lynne - no words translate exactly; however, as 'insan el kamal' is translated as 'the perfected man' and Kamal and Jamal are the same words in different dialects, I'll stick with my meaning (and accept 'beautiful' as a subsidiary meaning)...,

Added - see [http://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/list-of-origin-gender-names-meaning/arabic-girl-perfect.html] -the spelling is a little different, but different transliteratons are common.
In [http://www.islamicity.com/culture/names/female.htm] 'Kameela' is rendered as 'most perfect'.

(Of course, I'm not at all averse to having her called 'beautiful, graceful, lovely' as defined on one website. - [http://www.names4muslims.com/baby-girls.php?list=&name=%&page=8] )

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I'm going by Arabic, as written and spoken, in Arabic-language dictionaries and across the Arabic- speaking world; as I've heard it used over the years in many Arab countries; I also looked it up in my Arabic script dictionary.

"jameel" means beautiful", although, in Egypt, it would be pronounced "gameel" owing to Egytians not pronouning "j" as the rest of the Arabs (and, indeed, we do): they substitute a "g" for a "j". Written, however, in Egypt it is still "jameel" (feminine: "jameela").

"kaamil" is perfect, "kamaal" is "perfection". (femin. "kaamila"; "kamaala").

"jameel" and "kaamil" are not different dialect words - they are two distinct adjectives in Arabic and Arabs use them in the ways listed above, in talking and in written Arabic.

I was just pointing out that "jameela" (or jamila or whatever variation) doesn't mean "perfection" in Arabic as you said. Your donkey can be "beautiful" - nothing wrong with that - even if she isn't "perfection". :-)

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Sorry, Lynne - I'm not convinced. Because I didn't get Jamilla's name from a book but from a native speaker.
I would have called her Camilla, but preferred not to draw parallels with the Duchess. While the meaning of my donkey's name is important, in the situation Jamilla does just as well.

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Go_to, guess what. I think I have found us another two interested tcs to do the campion trial. Can you bear being surrounded by Aussies?

One Brit and three Aussies. You will be outnumbered. Lol

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Hi,

Hmm hardly fair odds Lee. 3 to 1? I think you need more Aussies than that he he - tough cookie you know! Oh and not wishing to alarm you but the "Lions" are heading your way - be warned.

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A Kiwi outnumbered by 3 Aussies! You're joking, aren't you Lee?

But I'm hoping for quite a few more. When I've finished Jamilla (who has been put on hold while I entertain a Camino friend) I'll be asking around my classes. They're all between 50 -75, but I met older people walking it last month.

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Kiwi!!! but, but, but, I thought you were a Brit.

So, neighbour, you are a Kiwi disguised as a Brit or has the gin and tonic I had for breakfast muddled my thinking process. lol

Brax, Lions! Pardon me, but I must googled and come back with a retort. Remember, although a true blue Aussie, I am an import from the exotic land of Asia. lol

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I'm a Kiwi, but also a Londoner as I came here in my 20s and stayed.

Not exactly disguised, though the accent I learned when I arrived (so as to fit in, you understand) owes more to Maggie Thatcher than Helen Clark.
And I do favour the Lions over the All Blacks these days.

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