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Thanks for the tips. I ended up booking a flight with Qantas/RJ via BKK for late April Early May.

It ended up a few hundred cheaper than Etihad (although a month later Etihad was cheaper).
Emirates was the most expensive. Gulf Air had some decent pricing but high taxes which made them more expensive. Some of the Arab airlines include fuel charges in their pricing and others don't.

Anyway I end up with 15 days in Jordan which should be a reasonable time and 5 days in Bangkok (Never been there before, but have been to other parts of Asia).

Now I need to look up places to stay and a rough itinerary.

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Hi Justin,

I too am having a stop over in Jordan although only for a week - here is an example of my itinerary:

Monday 16th
Arrive Amman - Queen Alia Airport 4:00AM
Bus from Madaba (or airport) to Petra via kings hwy stopping at Wadi Mujeb and karak
Stay in Petra

Tuesday 17th
Visit Petra
Stay in Petra

Wednesday 18th
Visit Petra
Stay in Petra

Thursday 19th
Early bus to Wadi Rum and tour during the day sleep in desert at night

Friday 20th
Early bus to Aqaba
Tour Aqaba
Late bus to Amman

Saturday 21st
Early morning to Jerash
Spend rest of the day in Amman
Stay in Amman

Sunday 22nd
Amman to Madaba
Mount Nebo
Dead Sea
Stay in Madaba

Monday 23rd
Madaba to Amman airport

Go to: http://www.jordanjubilee.com/ it has a lot of information!

Cheers

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Hey Vicky.
As a place to live, I'm not knocking Abu Dhabi (although I still wouldnt describe it as "hip"), but for a stopover ?

I know that, for me, if I had never been there before, pretty much all thats available in a two day stopover would be a depressingly westernised experience. I'd be wanting to see souks and old style buildings and alleyways, and that doesnt exist any more. I bet most people who do an Abu Dhabi stopover end up in one of the malls.

In fairness, I dont think Dubai is a great stopover either, but there is at least a little more in the way of obvious "cultural attractions" if you want to find them.

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The problem with going overseas on Qantas is that your holiday doesnt really start until you change planes.

Until then your travel companians are likely to be ordinary Australians going 'home' to UK instead of interesting people going to interesting places.........


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Hi Genghis - I was joking with the 'hip' comment!
I agree completely that AD has become far too westernised and if someone came here expecting 'old Arabia' they would be disappointed, but I still think that for someone who has never been to the ME before (though I'm not sure if that applies to our OP) two days spent visiting the cultural foundation, Sheik Zayed mosque, Emirates Palace, the heritage village, eating a schwarma at Lebanese Flower etc etc wouldn't be a waste of time. I'm not saying there aren't better places to go but I honestly don't think that AD sucks! Anyway, let's face it, even as you typed that comment you must have known that I wouldn't let something like that pass me by!!

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You're right - I was expecting you to leap to AUH's defence. Must have been in a provocative mood...
I'd say you've just defended it pretty well.

I'd forgotten that the Emirates Palace is well worth a gawp at, and you have reminded me that I havent been anywhere near SZ mosque for at least 4 years. I've assumed that non-muslims arent allowed inside, but is it worth a visit anyway ?

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Non-Muslims can look around freely between 9-11am Sun-Thurs. If you want a (free!) guided tour arrive at 8.45am. Will look even more beautiful when the landscaping outside is finished. And take some sunglasses - all that Carrera (sp?) marble is blinding!

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I agree that the marble really hurts the eyes. SZ mosque is quite a sight - interesting to see just how flowery-kitsch they've made it inside. It's like big, fancy hotel lobbies used to be in that part of the world before Asian minimalism and Western blandness caught on. Kind of funny (in a nice way).

I think if anyone goes to the Gulf expecting 'Old Arabia', with Damascus-style souks and Jerusalem-style atmosphere, then they deserve all the (disappointment) they get... Personally I thought AUH was fascinating - it takes only the tiniest bit of independent spirit to access a bit of Bangladeshi and/or Pakistani life behind Hamdan Street, or hang out with the fishermen over by the port, or just dig a little into local life. Top recommendation for a one/two-day stopover, though, is to go to Al-Ain - walk in the oasis, get a flavour of the old days with the forts/palaces etc (and understand a bit more about the veneration of SZ while doing it), eat Indian to die for, get into the desert, hang out at the Green Mubazzarah (more local life) - etc etc etc. And that's not even talking about Liwa, which is a whole other world. I was only in AUH for 7 days or so - hip it ain't, but fascinating it certainly is. And although I went into the malls and the Emirates Palace, it was more for curiosity value than because I felt like there was nothing else to do. There's plenty more to do.

On that score Dubai sucks, IMHO! ;-)

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Ruffgyder - we are obviously kindred spirits!
BTW, it might be Saturday - Thursdays that you can do the mosque tour. Check on the ADTA website if you want to confirm.

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http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?messageID=14931100&#14931100
Who the hell is justinlee??? Even I can't big up AD as much as that!!

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