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My wife and I are in our early 30's and are planning to have kids soon. We'd like to go on one last big trip, well not that big we only have 5-6 weeks. Previously we spent a couple of months in Southeast Asia, we spent 8 months travelling through Western/Eastern Europe, Turkey and the Middle East (Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Israel), and spent six weeks in China and Tibet last year. There's an awful lot left to see and do :) Basically we figure we've got time for one last trip before we (hopefully) have kids, somewhere that requires a lot of time as we probably won't have an abundance of free time once we have kids, and somewhere that is somewhat challenging to travel in, somewhere we wouldn't want to go with a baby, or toddler, or young children. Somewhere that if we don't go now, it'll be a hell of a long time before we have the chance again :)

Two big places that have always been on our list have been East & South Africa or India & Nepal. Both require 4-6 weeks at a minimum and that can't be easy with young kids. In my mind Africa was this place that was very difficult to travel but I've been researching but countries like Rwanda, Uganda, Kenya, and Tanzania seem like they would be fairly easy to travel (especially the national parks) and South Africa seems to be quite modern and European where we can just rent a car for 2-3 weeks and drive from Jo'burg to Cape Town. Then again 8 days of safari in a 4x4 and a couple weeks driving around South Africa might not be such a great idea a baby, toddler, or young child :) And there's obviously the issue of vaccines and malaria in eastern africa, and crime in south africa. India on the other hand still seems quite challenging, and there's the high risk of food born illness, and obviously trekking in Nepal for 10 days and hiking at altitude is not something that one can do with toddlers or young children..

Anyone have any thoughts, experiences, or guidance for us? :)

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Go for Nepal. 5-6 weeks will be good to do a decent trekking (f.e everest) and visit the cities, Chitwan. I guess this will be a nono for the next 10 years with children.

East Africa will indeed require vaccins/Malaria, etc. However once the children are a little bit older, this should not be a problem (and the children will like it). Same accounts for India

South africa can be easily done with children and is very easy to travel in. Hire a car and visit the NP's. Children will love the wildlife (once they are a few years older). Depending on the season, Malaria will not be a problem.

However don't worry that you will not travel once you have children, you will and there are so many places they (and you) will love

Ps: Southern Africa (Patagonian andes) will also be of limits for some years to come (and great to visit)

Have fun

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Thanks, my only issue with Nepal is our last trip was to China with two weeks in Tibet where we visited Everest Base Camp so going to Nepal would be similar to Tibet in some ways, and obviously different in many ways (trekking instead of 4x4). I wonder if we wouldn't be better off going to East & South Africa for something completely different than we've previously experienced on our other trips.. I'm going to assume by Southern Africa you meant South America :)

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Oeps: indeed my last sentence should ofcourse be south America.
If your going for Africa than go for eastern Africa. South Africa is much much easier to do with children.
A combination Uganda and Kenya will be great.

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Hi, Both your trips sound great. I would also mention Latin America, and specifically places like the Amazon and Galapagos, both of which would be great for older kids but not so much with babies/toddlers. We have a toddler now and we live in Latin America and (sad to say it) I don't know that we can go to either due to long boat trips, vaccinations, far from medical help etc.

But that said, kids are very adaptable and there are lots of places you can take them, and (more importantly) that they are welcomed.

Good luck!

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Hi,
I would suggest India. We went there for our honeymoon (before kids) and it was great. Now after two kids, we are very glad we went when we did. Although it is easy to travel in India, adding kids to the mix would be extremely difficult. Think strollers, vaccines, access to healthcare, crawling babies, mangy dogs...

Have fun!

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For health risks and access to medical care the countries I would probably avoid most with young kids would be parts of Africa - it would be far more relaxed on your own and you can also do as much wildlife watching as you want (young kids tend to like animals but a few seconds is often enough!). I agree that treks and things would also be tough with young kids - basically anywhere that is isolated in a region with poor infrastructure since rapid medical care can be important for young kids.

India isn't a particularly enjoyable destination with kids but it isn't so bad and many people do travel with young kids there. The pluses over Africa are that good medical care is available and malaria isn't such a big issue in many parts. You do need to be careful with food, dogs etc and it is best done after your kids walk! Vaccines are probably much the same as Africa with the absence of malarial medication.

What happens with kids is that you tend to change the way you travel, but you will find your own pace and what you feel comfortable with. Even with these changes most people find it more rewarding because it changes the way you view things - and the way local people treat you.

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Can't really advise you on destinations but it may not be as long as you think before you can hit the road again - it will be a gradual slope and you'll have to ease into it gently starting with easy destinations. We went back to Bali with an 18 month old (OK, very easy) and Syria and Jordan with 6 and 8 year olds and Cambodia with 9 and 12, all without any problems. The things I'd suggest doing now are strenuous activities when the kids might struggle to keep up such as trekking or where there are really long trips such as 24 hour bus trips. Anything else I think they'll adapt to magnificently.

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If you have spent a couple of months in SEA. And you would prefer not to go to Nepal. Then I would also suggest Africa or Latin America.

Pre-kids, we enjoyed a couple of months in Southern & Eastern Africa, mostly on truck-based safaris (SA / Vic Falls / Okavango and Kenya / Zanzibar).

And also in South America (Ecuador / Peru / Chile).
And further north (Mexico / Guatemala / Cuba).

These were all great trips, but not something I would do with young kids (OK, maybe Mexico / Chile). Anywhere malarial or above say 3000m, you can probably forget for a while.

And kids prefer a base, so that style of travel where you stay a couple of days & move on & stay a couple of days & move on is just too hard.

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we are currently traveling for 3 months in India and we have a 4yr old and a 5.5yr old. We are 7 months into a 1yr backpacking trip around SEA, and East Asia. There are many parents currently out there travelling long term with their children in tow-- having children shouldn't stop you from travelling again! Yes, it is harder, but surprisingly only marginally so. once you get used to being parents, being parents while traveling is only an extension. As for traveling India with young children, i'd have to disagree with API in that there is a lot for the children to do, in South India anyway. We just met a German couple who are traveling here for 1 month with their 5yr old and their 10month old and they are having a great time, with no issues for the baby at all.

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