turnip/swede

is one British english and the other uk? ( or what is the difference?=

I'm confused by the first question.

But to the second - they're two different vegetables. The turnip is generally smaller with white mild tasting flesh. A swede is generally large, with orange peppery flesh.
Swede is generally served boiled, mashed, and unadulterated (apart from the addition of a bit of butter and some salt and pepper), as a side vegetable. Turnips tend to be chopped and put into a stew or casserole.

Up north, they call swede turnip; both in the North East and in parts of scotland.

Turnip's more peppery and less sweet than swede, in my opinion.

Nutmeg is nice added to swede. I don't like turnips, myself. They're a lot like mooli (giant radish), and you can cook them in the same ways.

A navarin of lamb uses young turnips and that's a lovely dish.

A Swede is called a rutabaga in the US. This clears up some confusion with theturnip I hope.

In parts of the US a swede/rutabaga is called a yellow turnip, as distinct from a white turnip.

Turnips are pig food.

Rutabaga/turnip pictureBoth are members of the cabbage family, but they are two different species of plants. Turnips are Brassica rapa. In the first century Pliny described long turnips, flat turnips, round turnips. He wrote of turnips under the names rapa and napus. In Middle English this latter term became nepe, naep in Anglo-Saxon. One of these words, together with turn ("made round"), became our common word "turnip."

The European types of turnip, our commonest kinds, developed in the Mediterranean area. The basic center of the Asiatic kinds is in middle Asia, west of the Himalayas. There are also two secondary centers-eastern Asia and Asia Minor.

The European type of turnip was grown in France for both food and stock feed at least as early as the first century after Christ.

In the England of Henry VIII, turnip roots were boiled or baked, the tops were cooked as "greens," and the young shoots were used as a salad
Rutabaga (Brassica napobrassica) gets its name from Swedish rotabagge. In England and Canada it is commonly called "Swede," or "Swede turnip." The French called it navet de Suede (Swede turnip), chou de Suede (Swede cabbage), and chou navet jaune (yellow cabbage turnip). It was known in the United States about 1800 as "turnip-rooted cabbage." Although common names suggest a Scandinavian origin, this is not certain.

Rutabaga was apparently known on the Continent many years before it was grown in England. It was little known in England in 1664 when it was grown in the royal gardens. It was used for food in France and southern Europe in the 17th century. Both white and yellow-fleshed varieties have been known in Europe for more than 300 years.

Both are good sources of vitamin C, fiber, and potassium. Rutabagas are a good source of vitamin A; turnips aren't.

The greens of turnips (but not usually rutabagas/swedes) are also eaten. Turnip greens are a good source of vitamins A, C, and K, as well as folate.

Sometimes people in the US and Canada say "Did you just fall off the turnip truck?" to indicate naivety, or naiveté.

Stupid pig

I think that is an outrageous claim and I call upon asmallturnip to come out of hiding and stand up in his defence.

In the area where I live, swedes are called mangol wurzels (or mangols). No idea of the etymology. (Nutrax? Vinny?) Anyway, the name Wurzel or Worzel indicates a bumpkin. There's a band called The Wurzels. They do comic songs and had several hits in the 70's.

Turnip head is an insult, applied to an England football manager. An insult to turnips.

In Scotland they are known as "neeps" and mashed ones my mother's family used to call "bashed neeps". In line with the Anglo Saxon, I see.

Locally they are left in the fields for animals to eat.

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<hr>Locally they are left in the fields for animals to eat. <hr></blockquote>

I thought they were left in the soil to get frosted and sweeten, like parsnips.

they turn them up roughly with a plough and leave them for the cattle, arbon. Later in the winter, when pasture is less available.

I can't vouch for local useage, of course, but as far as I know, mangle wurzel is a beet, not a turnip or rutabaga/swede. Beets are ot botanically related to turnips & rutabagas. <blockquote>Quote
<hr>The mangold-wurzel (or mangel-wurzel) is a member of the family Chenopodiaceae, genus Beta (beets). The beets include the sugar beet (Beta vulgaris altissima), beetroot (Beta vulgaris craca), and Swiss chard (Beta vulgaris flavascens). The mangold-wurzel (Beta vulgaris vulgaris) is a subspecies of the common beet (Beta vulgaris), as are chard (or leaf beet or spinach beet) (Beta vulgaris cicla), and sea beet (Beta vulgaris maritima).

Developed in the 18th century for cattle fodder, probably derived from sea beet which is indigenous to southern and western Europe. Identified by its large white or yellow swollen roots. The name comes from the German for beet (mangel) and root (wurzel). <hr></blockquote>And<blockquote>Quote
<hr>its name is usually written mangel-wurzel and it isn’t a relative of the turnip but a large variety of beet, closely related to the sugar beet and the beetroot or red beet.

Mind you, many people have been confused about it down the years. These root vegetables all look alike to the non-specialist and we don’t even all have the same names for them. The British swede is the rutabaga in the US, for example, the latter name having been taken from an old dialect Swedish word for this type of turnip. (Brits call it a swede because it was bred in Sweden in the eighteenth century; the Scots name for it is neep, as in bashed neeps, or mashed turnips, a traditional accompaniment to the famous haggis). But when H L Mencken wrote in The American Language in 1921 that Englishmen “still call the rutabaga a mangelwurzel”, he was seriously up the botanical and agricultural creek without a leg to stand on.
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Mangel-wurzel is mainly a British term, which is often shortened to mangel, or sometimes to mangold. To many townies, it evokes a stereotyped traditional yokel rurality in which every peasant wears a smock, wields a pitchfork, and talks in a Mummerset accent. Think of the scarecrow Worzel Gummidge, whose first name comes from the vegetable, though the author states that his head was actually made from a turnip. Confusion abounds.

Mangel-wurzel is originally German. The first part is the old word Mangold, meaning beet or chard (the latter being the green leaves from a variety of beet). The second part is Wurzel, a root. Germans became confused about the first part several centuries ago and thought it was instead Mangel, a shortage or lack. From this has grown up the popular belief that mangel-wurzel refers to a famine food, a root you eat only when you’re starving. This is a gross calumny, since when young it’s as tasty and sweet as other sorts of beet, though it’s mainly used as animal fodder.<hr></blockquote>

Does asmallturnip drive the truck? If so he is smarter than the bumpkin who falls off.

Nutras has said pretty much everything worth saying, but nevertheless I'm going to point out that the Chenopodiaceae (beets, chard, mangelwurzel) are the goosefoot family. The Mexican herb epazote is also chenopdiacious. Not a word I get to use every day.

And I guess I could also add that the chenopodiacious chard is often called Swiss chard to distinguish from cardoons, sometimes called chard in the past, which are in the thistle family, like artichokes (but you eat the long stems).

Sugar beet is mangel-wurzel in the UK.

Neeps are a staple food up here
The word is common in NE Scotland but not so much in the Central Belt any more

A stupid person can be called a neep.
and we have colourful sayings involving neeps such as, "See him, he'd shag a rotten neep" (He is as undiscerning as he is libidinous)

"Neeps are a staple food up here'
Poor bastids!

..disclosing a bit too much to the OP........dont you think??....

How many times? I feel like I've died and realised there's an afterlife afterall (yes, I know).

Cog (at 2) is dead right.

#19, there must be more trivia and titbits we can post about Chenopodiaceae, Beta vulgaris, or perhaps venture into the subject of Pseudopodia.

"titbits" - so, what are 'tidbits'?

Tidbits is a bowdlerisation of titbits.

Here are some small turnips and you can't beet these varieties for color.