I'm patronising - you're snotty, Smedder , saying that folk who been drinking beer for longer than you've been alive are making choices based on trends over the last few years.
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Exactly. Come back and try them when your palate's grown up a bit


Who said that people as old as you are making choices based on tends (although some no doubt do)? You really need to read what people write and not infer things incorrectly.

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who's "we" then?

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<hr>Like czech beer 5 years ago, we seem to be told that they're the best and everyone automatically believes it<hr></blockquote>Well, adjusts lawyer's wig, looks stern that suggests a "choice based on trends"...

Chimay Grande Reserve vintage is a damn fine beer, as is Westmalle Tripel and Leffe Radieuse. Quite unlike any beer from anywhere else, I think.
Orval Trappiste though, pretty bloody ordinary! It has cloves in it and my tongue went numb.
I think that the OP is being a bit general in his swipe at Belgian beer, but thet're certainly not for everyone.

nobody ever 'told' me they were the best, I just tried them and happened to think they were. (I started drinking Belgian beer when I was really young - 13 or 14, although it was illegal in the USA. It's all my dad would drink. German was OK too. Nobody was around to tell me that it was 'the best'...it was just all that was around. Yes, I had parental permission to drink beer at home.)
You aren't supposed to drink too much of the heavy ones - hell, two Delerium Tremens and I'm practically shaking. Piraat, however, I can drink a little more of. And don't ever insult my Mad Bitch!