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It was great while it lasted, but the Thorn Tree forum is now officially dead. TT Rest In Peace.

I understand that the BBC is trying to turn a loss making forum into a profitable business,
but they have shot themselves in the foot.

Do they not realise that this forum promotes the "lonely planet" brand, and ultimately sells
their guides? Even if 5% of sales of guides/downloads is promoted by this forum, is it not
a worth-while loss-leader?

I was never a hard-core poster, but enjoyed occasionally browsing and posting about my limited
travel experiences. However there are very few posts now, and even less discussion or replies
to posts.

Visiting this forum is now a painfully slow, and un-enjoyable experience.

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Couldn't agree more.

Just took 2 minutes to get the reply screen with dial up, wasn't going to post here any more but had to one last time to agree as it is painful.

As far as buying Lonely Planet books, I no longer do that since the last one I bought was found on Amazon a few days later about 30% cheaper.

All I can say is Thorn Tree - RIP

Bye bye

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Do they not realise that this forum promotes the "lonely planet" brand, and ultimately sells their guides? Even if 5% of sales of guides/downloads is promoted by this forum, is it not a worth-while loss-leader?

I agree. It is very difficult to directly monetize the value of websites, very few ever pull it off. But ever since Google figured out how to do it and sites such as Facebook and Myspace have managed to build traffic to volumes that are conceivably profitable, everyone else is scrambling to figure out how they can, too.

I suspect that someone at BBC saw this as a potential profit center and paid a price for the company with that profit in mind. They then prioritized getting this version of the site up in time for the Christmas shopping season, before the kinks had been worked out.

I also suspect that LP management deliberately avoided adding advertising prior to the BBC sale in order to make the lure of ad revenue part of the untapped potential that could entice a new buyer. Buyers look for untapped potential, so leaving some stones unturned is typical in these situations. The private equity investment made into LP a few years ago made it clear that the company was being groomed for sale, it was just a matter of when, to whom and for how much.

I think what they missed is the importance of the layout (their changes have made it tough to read) and that the regulars do need to be kept happy in order for queries to get answered, otherwise the occasional posters and lurkers will have nothing to look at. The traffic has fallen off noticeably, it's quite amazing to see how much it is declined so quickly. I have serious doubts that the web planners spent much time analyzing the user habits of the prior version before implementing their changes, which of course they should have done.

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I agree 100%

The number of posts has reduced dramatically. Some threads/posts are going back two, three or more days.

With the old TT there were new posts almost constantly.

Looks like a great travelling resource is dying right infront of our eyes. Sad, really sad.

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{quote:title=RoamingRon wrote:}{quote}
It was great while it lasted, but the Thorn Tree forum is now officially dead. TT Rest In Peace.

Really? How is it then that it is still here? Officially dead? Methinks you exagerate somewhat.

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This new Thorntree SUCKS....Please , go back to the old.............

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First time I have logged on in over a year & it still sucks BIG time!

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Seems the 500-800 or so users online here at any given time would disagree with that assesment

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That's capitalism for you; BBC needs to make a profit and I guess they thought TT wasn't bringing in the bucks (or pounds). They seem to have missed the other part - that consumers are free to choose where to spend their time and money. Luckily, there are other boards that still want us. Adios Thorn Tree, Adios Lonely Planet.

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