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Hi everyone

Ive been travelling in Asia since December, and wanted to share some advice (after reading a lot of posts that these might help with). Im posting it here as it relates to round the world travel as well.

Making Round the World Plans:

  • there is absolutely no need to buy a RTW ticket for most trips- i researched my proposed trip using budget airlines and found it to be around 2-3 thousand dollars cheaper.this may require a slight change in plans (like i would have had to go through hawaii, oh the horror), however it means you are free to change your route, not just the timing, and you can take longer than 1 year. It may take a long time researching but its well worth it. If i bought the ticket i had planned on buying i would be screwed. I havent followed what i planned at all. Which leads onto the second point

-secondly, BE FLEXIBLE. I amy have taken this to the extremes, but man have i had fun. I orginally planned this giant 15 month around the world trip and are meant to be in the middle east about now (after having done asia, nepal and India). Instead im sitting at home. I spent my whole time in Asia, with roughly a month per country, and enjoyed those parts much more than the parts i rushed through. I also went to places i hadnt even heard about while planning the trip, and made a spur of the moment decision to head to a beautiful island when i felt i was gettong 'asia-ed out'. Oh by the way im sitting at home because im here for 2 weeks before heading off to Africa...

-feel free to do the unknown. Funny enough the 5 hour motorbike ride i went through to get to one of the Vietnam/Laos borders was one of my best and worst experiences (but the worst part was more to do with a distinct lack of padding around my bum...)

-take your time!!!. I read post after post about people spending one week in this country, 5 days in that country. I was in Cambodia for over a month and only visited 3 places. Other times i wasnt having so much fun so moved on quicker. But i can think of nothing worse then having to rush through a city which you think you might really enjoy. My advice would be to choose fewer countries if your on a limited schedule, rather than just adding countries to your list. Its actually easier spending longer in one country, because you get to know how much things should cost, a bit of the language, and just how things work in general. You also have more of a chance to visit places others skip, and meet some amazing people (including other travellers) who tend to be a bit more tucked away.

-Budget more then you have to. Its much better to have lots of money left over, and longer trips pretty much never go to plan. In my case i lived off a reasonably tight budget all through asia, until i got to Koh Tao, where i spent $1500 in about ten days doing 6 different scuba courses. And it absolutely rocked. Make it so any random urge can be fulfilled (within reason of course- you dont need to go to such extremes as me).

-Do not buy guide books from home. This is especially the case in regards to asia, where they are cheap as. I had maybe 2 at a time, one for the country i was in, and one for the country i was heading to next for research purposes. I left these behind when i was done. And i must remark i found guide books to be pointless in terms of finding accommodation and good restaurants. Firstly i could rarely be bothered finding the places when there are plenty of places nearby that are just as good, and secondly, often as soon as a place gets into a guide book they up their prices due to increased demand. This means that places that are listed as a good option for a certain price bracket, and now way overpriced, and there are much nicer alternatives.

-try to learn where places are before jumping in a cab/on a moto. They will charge you large amounts of money just to go round the block. A good sign your being an idiot is when all the taxi drivers you talk to refuse to use the meter.

-Do not carry too much luggage (easier than it sounds). I had 2 backpacks while travelling. I started off with a 65L backpack. I actually popped home midway, dumped around 17kg worth of luggage!!!, bought a school bag from my old high school and went again with that. Rather thab carrying around a whole bunch of souveniers and crap i didnt need, i had the essentials. My bag was 7kg and qualified as cabin luggage (a great way to beat the ques at the airport). Once more especially in asia its cheap to send things home. That way you dont have to carry them, or worrry about what happens if your bag gets stolen. If you do take too much, and you find yourself travelling for a while without ever using an item, give it away. People will be grateful. And with the amount of baggage there is no excuses about going through different climates. My 7kgs included a ski jacket and thermals (though if you bring hiking boots it may be more, though they were another thing i left at home after 2 months, along with my sleeping bag which i never used), and im taking the exact same stuff to Africa and Europe. Oh and remember important documents can be scanned onto hotmail- brilliant whoever thought that one up.

And finally dont stress. Im a 22 year old girl travelling on my own, and there were only a few moments when i actually felt lonely, and none where i felt seriously threatened. For potential solo travellers: doing trips by yourself actually really is wonderful. I travelled part way with a friend. We fought constantly, and yet spent so much time just with each other. The rest of the time i was on my own. There were no fights. You tend to be a lot nices to strangers then people youve been couped up with for too long. And i had some amazing conversation- from travellers fresh from 6 months in India, to a bikie in Sapa who was just having a vacation (and showed my a multitide of photos of his various bikes). When your on your own you easily change from a shy person to someone who will talk to absolutely anyone. Often with wonderful consequences.

As i said these are just some conclusions ive come up with. None of them are original. People give you lots of advice, and often you ignore half of it (esp. the luggage one). And of course others are going to have different opinions. Its up to you to decide whether or not what ive said may apply to you.

:)

Cat

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Thanks for an interesting post. Yes i've always wondered about whether RTW tickets are worth it.

It seems from your post that just like rail passes they aren't.

Lots of good advice from your trip eg re posting vital info to your email account, & re guide books.Only problem is
i at least like to have an idea of where i want to visit before i go & a guide book is useful, to scribble in & highlight
places you are interested in.

Yes, really true that it's very often not worth taking the LP recommended place to stay in. They are nearly always much more expensive by the time you go. They've hiked up the prices& other than in small places there is normally just as good if not better around the corner.
Sometimes however the LP choice is a good one & worth paying a bit more for(can also be the other way round).

Yes the temptation to carry too much luggage is always the bane of the traveller. This year i'm trying to travel with only cabin luggage & a few extras on my person & plastic bag. I'll see how that goes
& report back in due course.

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Hi just to clarify- i found the best thing with the guidebooks was to borrow them from the library, work out the places i wanted to see and the vital info, then look on the internet for updates. The fact is things are often out of date by the time we get the books anyway, whereas there is usually someone on the internet who has just done what your researching. Then when i get to the country i buy a second hand/cheap book. As i said i dont use them for accomodation anyway (or entrance fees for that matter- i found they were often wrong), but rather maps and major tourist sites.

Cat

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Hi Cat, thanks for the advice, I'm with chabibi on the guides being handy to highlight places and jot down notes, however it may be a good excuse to get that moleskine I have been tempted to buy... :)
My wife and I, along with our daughter, will be heading to SEA in just over a month and we plan to take our time, and basically soak up the culture as well as meeting some interesting people. Our plans are flexible, the only part of our trip that isn't flexible is to be in Poland by Xmas.
Interesting point about the LP guides, I guess it pays to shop around and truly use it as a guide rather than a bible.

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Thanks for the post. Very helpful!

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thanks Cat - all great points

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Not one new thing in your post cat. That's not a criticism, just a comment. Now wouldn't it be nice if all the new travellers simply believed what they get told here every day re packing, trying to cover too much ground etc. But people being people, I guess they will continue forever more making the same mistakes everyone else made and ignoring good advice.

I wish there was some way to get newbie travellers to read your post and then actually act on it. Every time I see yet another young woman struggling to put a 65l pack on her back I wonder if anyone will ever learn BEFORE they leave home.

Again, this is not a criticism but rather than telling us what you learned, tell us why you didn't learn it before you left home. What kept you from believing advice given here re packing and slowing down, etc.? If you could figure out why you didn't listen to good advice, maybe you could articulate that in a way that would get new travellers reading this to hear what you are saying.

Why you didn't listen beforehand is where the newbies problem lies.

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Hi cat,

Good guidelines, and I'm another one who's grateful for the advice on RTW tickets.

Re 6. This forum is less polite than say, Fodors, and sometimes people can come across as rude and arrogant (not the OP, I hasten to add). I can only speak for myself, but I wouldn't take advice from someone I didn't respect.

Also, travel is associated with freedom and self-discovery and I think many people resist the idea of following someone else's rules, even if they would probably benefit from them. Some people would rather be left to make their own mistakes, and others really do enjoy whistle-stop tours and admiring the scenery on long train journeys from A to B. Because travel is about new experiences and everyone's different, It's always going to be a process of trial and error.

Edited by: nerina

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Hey Cat, nice to hear your experiences!

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I'm going to disagree with a lot of this OP. I've traveled quite a bit, and if there's one thing I've learned, it's to avoid the temptation of trying to create all-inclusive sweeping one-size-fits-all rules of thumbs based upon one person's limited experience.

What works for one person may fail miserably for someone else, and vice versa. We cannot assume that what succeeds for us will be the case for everyone.

For example, RTW tickets work for certain itineraries and travels styles, while they don't work well at all for others. The OP has described a trip around Asia, not an RTW, which of course is not an itinerary that is optimal for RTW tickets. Yet there are others who would benefit from such a ticket. The key is to figure out who needs such tickets and who doesn't, not to make a generalized and misleading statement that they are never of any use to anyone.

For another, I have been places in which English-language guidebooks were not at all easy to come by. Had I expected to find such guidebooks at every whim when needed, I would have come away empty handed more than once.

Likewise, it can be quite easy to meet your fellow travelers if you stay on the tourist trail. But get a bit off the beaten path, and you may not see another traveler for quite sometime. The main circuits are well populated, but the further off the path I've gotten, the lower the odds of meeting others in the same boat.

More than once, I've stayed in pensions and hostels in which I quite literally was the only guest in the place. I personally didn't mind this, but I do know more than a few travelers who would feel quite lonely and out of sorts in these situations, particularly if they lacked knowledge of a language that could help them communicate with the locals.

So please, approach these rules of thumb with a lot of caution. They may apply to you, or they may not. In some cases, your experience may be the polar opposite of the person who posted this thread.

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