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hello
i wasn't sure where to put these question so i put in this thread area
this is aimed at travelling in the 3rd world

how does one go off the beaten track exactly? it sounds good but i dont really understand, do you just take a bus somewhere random?

and also , what is a good way of interacting with locals?

and if one wants to see those amazing nature beauties out there, do you have to take a guide? id like to see some forests and stuff but i dont want to spend heaps of money, whats a good way of going about doing this?

whats a good indication of a safe area? my government has a pretty bizzarre site, saying not to go to iran , pakistan etc but these countries seem perfectly fine.
what is the actual danger of some of these infamous third world countries?

thanks!

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Hi Vicent

Some interesting questions...

The first..that is one way.But not many people do that.''Off the beaten track''usually just means a place with few tourists.Even guide books have ''off the beaten track'' suggestions!

A good way of interacting with locals..well,knowing their language is a good start.Then just talk to people!

There are very,very few places where you 'have to' take a guide.People do it for convenience,to save time and energy on organisation or for fear of the unknown

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The idea of a 'safe area' is often discussed on here...use the search box (top right) and you will find loads of threads on this topic.

My take on it is that there are no completely 'safe' places...you need to take precautions,and think about your behaviour (also in your home country,not only when travelling).

Conversely there are very few places that are intrinsically 'unsafe'..I would avoid war zones (like Syria at the moment).I would not avoid Pakistan or India...

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indeed - nowhere is totally safe and we will all die.

one factor is travel insurance. It is generally not valid if you are in an area subject to a travel warning from your government. These areas need not necessarily be a whole country.

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Just adding to the above comments.

Off the beaten track is just a term for somewhere that not many tourists visit. There can be a number of reasons why somewhere is off the beaten track. It may be expensive/difficult to get there, there may be complications e.g. permits needed or there may just not be a whole lot there for tourists hence why it is not visited. Getting a bus to a random place seems a little risky. How do you know you are not going to end up somewhere with nothing to see and do and with suitable infrastructure to find a hotel? Believe me there are not too many places left that at least a few tourists have not visited, so just have a read about the countries you are interested in going to see, see what places appeal and leave yourself lots of flexibility for if someone on the ground does suggest some awesome place that is not in any of the guidebooks. At the same time there is a reason why a lot of places are on the beaten track and that is because they are very good!

Interacting with locals is very culture specific. In some countries you will be approached by friendly locals that want to talk to you. Other countries are a little more shy/conservative. Generally just be friendly, respectful and show an interest in what they want to talk about and you will be fine. Treat them how you would want to be treated (e.g. don't run up to them, shove a camera in their face and try to talk to them if they are obviously busy). Learning just a few phrases in the local language (e.g. hello, thankyou, please, my name is etc) can earn you big points with the locals however bad your pronounciation.

Nature depends on the place. Some places you can just walk round. Other places may require a permit to get in and guide.

Safety is not as simple as country a is safe, country b is dangerous. Government websites are not always the best, however your travel insurance may be void if you travel to these areas so you need to check that. It also depends on your views. For instance there are a lot of bombings in Pakistan recently, however these are to do with the political situation and not aimed at tourists. While it is unlikely you would be in danger, there is an increased risk that you could be. There has also been a recent kidnapping in Pakistan, however, it was in the countryside, where there is more risk of that kind of thing. Personally I wouldn't take the risk, but I certainly could understand someone going and I'm sure 99% of people have no trouble while there. Other places may have safe areas and dangerous areas (e.g. Sudan is ok to travel in but some areas such as Darfur should be avoided). Although I would agree Iran is 100% safe the don't travel there is just politics.

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There are many kinds of 'safety'..

I'd say the biggest killer (by far) for travellers is road accidents.They can take place anywhere.

The biggest overall crime affecting travellers is probably pickpocketing..again,that can take place anywhere,but is probably much more common in major European cities than in places like Iran or Pakistan

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For locals bring some sort of offering. For example Italians expect you to bring chickens and Germans typically prefer some sort of pastry.

Iran and Pakistan aren't perfectly fine, though no country really is, they are just further from fine than other countries. For example in 2007 and 2006 the UK declared a critical terrorism threat level, that means an attack is expected imminently. But few people would have considered advising not coming during those years.

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and if one wants to see those amazing nature beauties out there, do you have to take a guide?

It all depends where you want to make it.

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thanks guys thats all very helpful!

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I don't think I'd go to a war zone.

If I don't want to wait 4 hours+- for the train or bus, I just ask where the next one is going.

Best way I've found of dealing with foreigners, is ask a question, and sit back. Hear 'em out.
Stumble in their language first. Warmer results. They love people who really care.

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