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Driving in Sevilla and Granada can make one crazy.

There are frequent trains and buses to all your destinations and it's very rare to not be able to get a bus ticket even 5 minutes before departure.

The airport bus in Sevilla is fantastic, runs every 30 minutes or so starting at 5:00 and costs just 2.40 euros. It drops off/picks up at Santa Justa train station and its terminus is near the Parque Maria Luisa.

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I see no travel time in your itineraries. For example, in Plan 2 you say:
1 day Ronda
No, that will be a half-day in Ronda if you are travelling from Seville that morning. The same principle applies to Granada and Córdoba, so your "1 day Cordoba" will just be a half-day in Córdoba.

Just remember, the journey time on the bus or train is only part of the overall journey time. You still have to travel between the stations and your accommodation at either end.

Plan 1 seems too busy, with plan two i think i will not see enough of landscape, nature etc
I agree that Plan 1 is impossibly busy. However, if you want to see more nature, you will need to cut out a lot of destinations. That is unless you count staring out of a window as "seeing nature".

28th Jerez,Cadiz,Gibraltar sleep between Gibraltar and Ronda
What do you intend to see and do in Jerez, Cádiz and Gibraltar?

some advice with nice hostel in Seville up to 50€ for two persons
If you are going to stay in hotels, forget all about renting a car. The daily rental cost plus parking will make the cost of the night in a hostel seem insignificant.

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...and some advice with nice hostel in Seville up to 50€ for two persons..

I was in Seville earlier this year and stayed in Hotel Zaida. Good location, clean and simple. I think it was €40 per night for a double room (low season)

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Hello again,

i am more and more confused :)
my latest plan would be :
Seville one and half day 26 and 27th September
then i would like to see jerez de la Frontera, Tarifa and Gibraltar and visit white villages (Ronda,...).I think two days would be enough for that. Then i would go to Granada for two days
one day in Cordoba and last day in Seville again....it could be also two days Cordoba...

Does it make sense ?
Questions again :)
For third and fourth day i was thinking of renting a car ..yes/no ?
Any suggestions where to stay or where to sleep on those two days

Thanks again for answers so far.
Tone

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then i would like to see jerez de la Frontera, Tarifa and Gibraltar and visit white villages (Ronda,...).I think two days would be enough for that.
@Tone. I can only repeat the question I posed in #11.
What do you intend to see and do in Jerez, Cádiz and Gibraltar?

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Hello Tony,

Sorry for such unexact questions.
Jerez would be to see/taste some sherry maybe see/learn something about horses and go further. Cadiz is already out of my plan and Tarifa would be just places to drink a coffee stroll around or eat something and go on. maybe monkeys in Gibraltar and thats it.
i heard also something about some secret very nice place on the beach (well it is not so secret if i found it here on blog :) ) in Tarifa :)
In each town maybe two three ours depends how we like it, where we eat etc...
In one day we should come somewhere near white villages so that we have one day for white villages...
Thats just what i can imagine from behind a laptop.Thats why i prefer rent a car cause we could change our plans if needed and drop one location from our schedule if we dont have time etc...

Regards,
Tone

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I suggest that you check driving times with http://www.viamichelin.com/ taking into account that you may need at least half an hour to get into Gibraltar if you go on foot and more if you go by car and also these times to get out of it. Take time out for lunch etc and see if your plan makes sense.

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The Gibraltar Barbary Macaques (not "monkeys") are in a nature reserve in the Upper Rock. You need to take the cable car to get up there or face a long hike. It is not something that takes just an hour or so.

The Gibraltar cable car is some distance from the border and most people take a city bus to it from the border. The buses have to cross the airport runway. If there are aircraft landing or taking off at the airport, everything grinds to a halt, including the buses. I was there a few weeks ago and it took us half-an-hour to get from the border to the other side of the airport runway. That is little more than about 400 metres. Four flights, one after the other. That was bad enough but it was much worse for people coming the other way because the traffic on the Gibraltar side gets totally gridlocked when that happens, hence the construction of a tunnel under the runway (no estimated finish date as yet).

You need to leave plenty of time for getting across the border each way and it is impossible to tell you how long that will take. It could take 15 mins; it could take 1 hr 15 mins.

You have zero chance of fitting in the Barbary Macaques if you include Jerez and Tarifa in the same day.

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Thanks tony_b for this usefull information. It looks everything runs a little bit slower there :) No problem we go there to meet habits and nature of Spain. In my worst case i will leave Granada for some other time....
For me is the most important thing to gett a feeling how there people live, how Andalucia looks like etc......

So right now i am just looking for hostel in Seville for two days..and then que sera, sera :)

Still looking for some hint where to see some nice flamenco show in sevile or somewhere else..

Thanks to all for replies and usefull information,
Tone

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Still looking for some hint where to see some nice flamenco show in sevile or somewhere else.
Use the Advanced Search function at the top of this page. Enter my name and "flamenco".

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