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Another question about the russian visa.

Me and my girlfriend are trying to get a russian visa in sout-east asia and take the mongolia express to moscow. We could not get one in Vietnam as we needed to have at least a 90-day visa for vietnam (which we didn't have). They told us that this rules applies in every russian embassy... I am hoping for not as we are unable of getting a 90 day visa for china because they also got more strict because of the olympics... Our next stop is hongkong so we will try to get a russian tourist visa there again (hoping for a miracle..but expecting another decline)

Our last option would be to get a 10-day TRANSIT visa and stay on the train to moscow without getting off and flying out of moscow when we arrive. At least we see something then.. better then nothing. Has anybody tried to get a transit visa in beijing or shanghai? What was required, how long did it take?

I am german and my girlfriend is Dutch.

The transit visa is our last option as we are not keen on flying back from beijing.

Thanks for your help.

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I would be interested to know if you can still get a Russian tourist visa in Hong Kong. Last report was March 2008:

The Russian Consulate in Hong Kong is still issuing visas to overseas nationals (since you will almost certainly have a 90 day permit to stay in HK stamped in your passport, 180 days for Brits, and the new russian rules state that you can still get a visa in an overseas country if you have a permit to be there for at least 90 days).

Got mine there a few days ago and they still accept B&W printouts of invitations that have been e-mailed from the usual agencies. No questions asked, they seem to be a happy bunch of Russians working there.

You can NOT get a transit visa in Shanghai or in Beijing unless you have tickets out of Russia as well as tickets into Russia. You must have tickets in both directions, both into Russia and out of Russia in order to get the transit visa and then the visa will likely be good for only one or perhaps at most two nights in Moscow.

10 days is the maximum and is usually granted only to people traveling Vladivostok to Moscow to Petersburg and then onward since this combination of trains takes 8-9 days. Train from Beijing to Moscow either through Mongolia (transmongolian) or directly (transmanchurians) only takes 6+ days of which only 3-4 days are actually in Russia. Usually people get 5-7 days for such transit visas.

The difficulty in obtaining such a visa is the problem of obtaining the actual tickets for the trains. You cannot walk into any train station and buy them. They must be purchased through CITS or an agency. Recent reports suggest that it might not be easy to obtain such tickets this year.

If you are unsuccessful in HK, then I would suggest immediately contacting CITS, www.cits.net or Richard Tian of Ocean Travel, whose email is oceantravelcn@yahoo.com.cn or richards@public3.bta.net.cn. Reportedly these companies are quite reliable about obtaining the tickets at a fair price and delivering them during the day to your hostel or hotel in Beijing. Be sure to add them to your address book so that your spam filter does not "Eat" their responses.

You don't need to fly from Moscow but you will need to obtain a bus ticket from Moscow or Petersburg to someplace in the Baltics or Finland. Try eurolines.ee or ecolines. Both are bus companies operating in the Baltics and you may be able to purchase the necessary tickets online through them and get the receipts/vouchers from them.

Generally it takes the same amount of time to get a transit visa as a tourist visa, perhaps 5 days.

With your German passport, I would not count on being able to do this. It has been difficult to impossible for Germans to get Russian visas outside of Germany or the country of their official residence for many years.

If you can't get the visa is Hong Kong, I would definitely consider taking an Air Asia budget flight from Macau to Bangkok and getting your Russian tourist visa there. I seriously doubt that you can get a transit visa in China and almost definitely not in Mongolia where the consulate is very strict.

Good luck and please report back.

Ruth

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Hello,
My girlfiend and I have just picked up our transit visa for Russia in Beijing. We applied and collected it on the same day (for a hefty price!) Providing you have all the relevant paperwork, there doesn't seem to be a problem. The transit visa is the only possible visa you can get from Beijing. From what I understand, it's the only visa you can apply for outside of your home country. However, the Hong Kong Embassy is, apparently, a little less strict in enforcing this so maybe it's worth a try. Check out monkeyshrine.com who have a helpful website about the visa situation, train tickets etc.

If you do decide to get a transit visa, you'll need: Valid passport for 6 months after leaving Russia, One passport photo, copy of passport (relevent pages), Original train ticket (trans mongolian/manchurian/siberian) copy of train ticket, copy of ticket onward from moscow (confirmation by email is ok!) and possibly a copy of your medical insurance if your from a shengen country. I am from the UK and paid US$200 for same day pick up and my girlfriend is from Sweden and she paid US$100. So expect the worst! Unfortunately, as you need to buy all your tickets in advance, I believe they can charge you what they like for the visa as you have to choice to pay or lose the money you've already spent on the tickets. You can avoid the express pick up fee, providing the embassy is open and you have enough time to in Beijing. 6 day pick up and 3 day pick ups are available. They also use an exchange rate from Nov. 2007 which is way out of date, and you have to pay in RMB.

Good luck guys.

Jaimie & Anna

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This is useful information with one caveat. I am curious as to from whom you obtained the original train ticket from China to Moscow.

Current reports are that people are unable to reserve these tickets through travel agencies or CITS.

Ruth

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We got our tickets through CITS which I'm sure were more than happy to hand over our tickets for 3275rmb each. The train station was a no go as all sales staff seem to be programmed to divert us to CITS. One big scheme if you ask me.

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