Staying in NZ/Aus after WHV

Thanks Mark, seems like I've just missed out. Appreciate the help.

If you know of people, speak to them.
Then go and pay an Aust specialist migration agent, who would know the inside runnings of it all.
None of us (openly) work for the Dept of Home Affairs, and if they did, I don't think they would blow their cover.
Migration agents here have to be registered, if you have been seeing those ads on google or other websites, and feel you still have a chance, those are the people to speak to.
The people you know, also would be able to give the inside runnings of their skill set.
Sponsored positions take time, and you need to see if you meet the criteria, being on the WHV probably does not, as you would be working and not matching your skillset to the list, but as the others have mentioned, bar waiting is not on it.
Give it a try after speaking to your friends.
I myself am a migrant, but I have been here 30 odd years, my mum was a nurse, it was easier in the 1980s.
Life here is great, very different from Malaysia.
Being a spouse visa applicant, is another way, but it sets back the applicant Aud$7,000!

Thanks for the advice. Ill see what happens I guess, there's worse places to be than Europe if it doesnt work out I suppose.

Just did a read up, $31,000 a year to study at Uni of SA, Bachelor of Business (Tourism and Event Management).
3 years is $93,000, cost of housing and food and transport extra.
As I mentioned, its not cheap to study here, but this allows a longer stay.
The illegal side, which I am NOT espousing, some people do this, is to come into Aust on a valid visa, but then overstay and just do not leave till the person gets discovered.
Aust police don't not ask for id willy nilly, so its a country that for some, easy for people to overstay their visa, then they get discovered, and out they go.

Isn't it a bit arrogant to assume you would easily be promoted to Bar Manager? Why do you think you're better than those already working in bars in Australia/NZ?

I have stayed at various hotel groups, both Accor and Rydges.
If you are really keen, get to start working for a hotel group, and that is the trick to be able to legally work in Aust with proper sponsorship.
I have heard kitchen and the bar staff speaking in French, merciboucou, and Italian, grazia, etc, spoken by the breakfast staff and the staff dealing with my drinks with my dinner.
I would say these staff are older, grey haired, so would not be 417/462 visa subclasses.
You say you are now older, so if I were you, I would just come and do the Aust WHV ASAP.
Don't wait, and don't dream about staying on, if its offered by some chance, good, but if its not, don't push the point.
Running around doing the assessments for sponsorship, takes time, and this time spent with the various assessment bodies, would mean you are not working and not earning.
So, come and do the WHV, earn and get some money, doing fruit picking around the regional areas, from around Nov to Feb, and enjoy what this country is.
I would say to do fruit picking, rather than whats in your training, ie, bar and hospitality.
Fruit picking and packing, there is good money if you work hard.
Bar and hospitality, not so, and you have to deal with the public.
Fruit picking is just you working hard picking fruits and thus making more $.
And yes, I already know I talk too much 8888.

Not at all, you're talking to one of the best bar managers in the world, it says so on my CV.

Thanks for the advice but from what I've seen the money bartending in Aus is some of the best in the world. Don't forget I come from England where it is a minimum wage job.

My daughter actually works in a very trendy bar in trendy Fremantle in WA - she earns a good hourly rate but like most of the others, is employed on a casual basis, so she is never quite sure how many hours she's going to get.

Don't forget that the cost of living in Australia is way more than that of the UK and while your hourly rate is higher it won't go as far as you think.

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