Perth hostels attracting homeless

Copy of my post from the other thread:

hostels in Noosa and Sunshine Coast having an internationals only polcy

While at face value it could look discriminatory, there is definitely a range of conflicting uses and expectations of hostels, and where they do clash, it can lead to a disappointing experience, especially for the genuine backpacker.

Hostels can be used for all these:

• international travellers who seek a couple of nights
• Australian travellers seeking the same
• backpackers there longer term (working during their WHV)
• in some regions, hostels specifically for fruit-pickers
• cheap (on-going) accommodation for "fairly normal" Australians, who might well be working
• cheap (on-going) accommodation for derros, druggies, and the otherwise feral homeless

These multiple uses can cause real problems ... live and let live can only take you so far. We've stayed in hostels where the "permanents" dominate conversation, the TVs, the kitchen, the pool table, etc. It sucks and can be really unpleasant.

I can see why hostel owners want none of that ... fill the place with Danes or Japanese for a couple of nights only, and make much more out of them through the bar and the tours!

Seems to me the best solution (rather than a blanket locals ban) is to have a night-limit (3, 5 ,7 per quarter, whatever), except in those regional hostels specifically serving the fruit-pickers doing their 90 days of work.

There's no reason Aussies shouldn't be able to get a 100 a week room of Gumtree.

Especially Perth now has a out of control drug and alcohol problem combined with high unemployment, where do these derolict human beings goto for company, pick up spot for there drugs, or to find alcohol?

You guest it , the nearest youth hostel that will take Aussies..........

We're in broad agreement it seems!

I believe that a lot of poor people, addicts, the homeless, and the mentally troubled, need care and support ... youth hostels for young international - and Australian - travellers are not however (or shouldn't be) the solution.

There's no reason Aussies shouldn't be able to get a 100 a week room of Gumtree.

Point one - its not always going to be possible to a 100 $ a week room off Gumtree whenever someone needs it . You don't just arrive at a place and rush to the internet cafe or your phone to get a room off Gumtree.

where do these derolict human beings goto for company, pick up spot for there drugs, or to find alcohol?
You guest it , the nearest youth hostel that will take Aussies..........

Where is the hard evidence that locals are going into hostels for drugs and alcohol ? And as going for going there for company - isn't that part of what hostels are supposed to be about - meeting other travellers. And why would you want to be in a molly coddled commercialized tourist ghetto where you don't even meet Australians ?

I can see why hostel owners want none of that ... fill the place with Danes or Japanese for a couple of nights only, and make much more out of them through the bar and the tours!
Seems to me the best solution (rather than a blanket locals ban) is to have a night-limit (3, 5 ,7 per quarter, whatever), except in those regional hostels specifically serving the fruit-pickers doing their 90 days of work.

Night limit for one nationality is still discrimination and not legal.

I have done it (landed and moved Into a room for 100$ room in east perth off Gumtree) so why cant they?

So you would like a mentaly unstable drop kick local who probly never left the country let alone state in his 29 years of existence too share the dorm/ common room with you?

or would you rather a European backpacker who's just traveled from the jungle in Borneo and is on his way to Tokyo if he can work from the hostel for a couple weeks?

Surrounding have a have a huge impact on people attitudes.

"If you hang around with losers , you become a loser"

Donald trump

Night limit for one nationality is still discrimination and not legal.

No ... I was suggesting a time-limit for everyone would be fair and effective ... but not required in those hostels in agricultural areas that are set up to house fruit-pickers for 90 days.

I think there is a substantial subset of people (sadly) who would not successfully find a room in a share house for $100/week (or any amount) on Gumtree ... these people aim for boarding houses, institutional hostel accomm, or homeless shelters provided by charities and city councils.

or would you rather a European backpacker who's just traveled from the jungle in Borneo and is on his way to Tokyo if he can work from the hostel for a couple weeks?

International backpackers can be insufferable bores and totally self-obsessed as well. Lots of white privilege and other huge middle-class advantage comes with young-person travel, I'll give you the drum!

" Just a heads up perhaps only book 1 day and check it out before you get comfy . "
All too true anywhere anytime Awd or even with an AWD for they might also not be too suitable but hostels can vary enormously whether it be in Australia or abroad, some just giving a somewhat seedy vibe that you may not immediately get so unless you have been at a particularly well liked hostel previously, a one nighter is a good approach.

Probably depends on the communication skills and that works both ways.