get reid of AWA in WA mining industry

Ooops, just realised thats what you said #9.

I am just thanking god I am getting out of Mining this week .Scored a job as a Aircraft Maintence Engineer ;-) . A while back there was post that went on forever about unions and the mining industry. Since then there was news story on Stateline titled Why workers are deserting the unions.which out lines the slow death of WA unions.

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<hr>the past year union memberships in WA plummeted more than ten percent. In real terms that's almost 17-thousand workers either dropping out or cancelling their union memberships.<hr></blockquote>

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<hr>Last year alone, union membership fell ten-and-a-half per cent, down to a record low of 142 thousand members across the state. The drop means just 16 per cent of the current workforce is unionised. That's fewer than one in six workers. 15 years ago, more than one in three workers belonged to a union. <hr></blockquote>

Bazza you said before you where on a site that is no union card no start so why didnt you use them ? If you want the $53 an hour then you got to expect none of the perks, sounds to me that your just on labour hire.... why not go the dark side and work directly for the comapny??. On the non unionsed sites I have worked a fitter gets about $45 but with all the perks.

Jeez Bazza you are whingeing for $53 per hour? Why don't you get a normal job at $15-$25 per hour like the rest of us!

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<hr>$53 an hour<hr></blockquote>
But how many hours are you working? 84 would be standard while on site, or since there is a labour shortage, tell them it's 84 hours or they can shove it. 84 hrs/wk @ $53/hr = $4,452

Aircraft Maintenance Engineer, full time, $30 per hour, 171/2% leave loading, 4 weeks annual leave pro-rated available as you accrue it, 10 days sick leave, 10 days paternity leave, overtime at 1.5 & 2 x normal rate, all public holidays paid for, company bonuses each year (last year was $3000), shares each year, subsidised canteen, airconditioned aircraft hangar, same pay across the board for all (2 levels of tradesmen, paid accordingly), 4x10 hour days-3 day weekend every week, non unionised, EBA arranged through worker representatives and company representatives. Bazza, you can keep your $53 per hour, Im going home to my job that doesnt pay brilliantly, but lets me balance my work with my family and recreational pursuits.

I'm with Eli on this one.

$53 per hour isn't to be sneezed at.

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<hr>2 off those days i am flying <hr></blockquote>
and where the hell are you flying to, that takes a day to get there and a day back? London?

Hear, hear boxbeach @17 - we offer similar conditions through our Collective Agreement (similar to EBA) and with market loading (which is available) our plumbing position would also pay around $30 per hour. Needless to say we have trouble filling trades positions due to the boom.

I detest unions and would never vote Labor because of this. The union people at work are aggrieved, antagonistic clock-watchers who actually make it worse for the rest of the staff. (we all work under the same agreement).

I used to have to meet with them quarterly and it was a waste of time (Why were'nt we consulted on the colour when the ladies toilet was painted?) Thanks to Work Choices I no longer have to.

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<hr>and where the hell are you flying to, that takes a day to get there and a day back? London?<hr></blockquote>

Bazzas job is Fly in Fly out (FIFO) of Newman and depending on the size of the plane and transit time from the airport it many take all day to get home in Perth. Even on a meduim sized plane it could take 2-3 hours flying time.

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