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you forgot to mention, there is a 96 % literacy rate..............way too funny. does that mean count to 10 and make your mark. 'they'..........hmm, that does sound like it includes everyone.........such as the silent majority who don't seem to care or have given up trying since it is hopeless. or the rich that control everything and like to keep the sheep 'barefoot and pregnant' as them yanks say. or the junta, who would rather increase their budget 66%, but only spend 1000 baht a year to try to teach a child, with untrained, unmotivated teachers. 40 + kids to a class in good school, more in gov't, no problem teaching down to the dumbest, the other will just have to keep up.......down. probably because they can afford to send their children to private schools here and abroad.

41 % in college, still acceptable............hmm, test scores for college, average grade, highest 79, and they accept medical students with a 52 grade. sorry where i come from, you can't get out of 1st grade with a 52, and they are planning on performing surgery on you...........no thanks. so keep quoting numbers, they really do sound good. don't forget, every student is guaranteed 9 years of this excellent training, hope you realize that 3 yrs is kindergarten. the the gov't provides all of a six grade education. ok, if lucky, basic math, basic reading, and basic superstition. the sheep are educated............................please.

i'm a yank, and i used to write my congressman occasionally, thus giving me the right to bitch and complain about all the campaign lies. since they are doing such a good job now, i would like to see one term limits, and they are to be paid last, after the balance budget is passed.

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In reality it is not how many people pass through the education system, it is what they are taught. The Thai system - although undergoing change is very parochial empiricism is minimal and the result is that issues such as the environment animal welfare a are in general overlooked or fudged

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Khunwilko said: ""cultural differences" is not an umbrella under which activities such as this can hide....in the same way cannibalism and female circumcision are to be deplored and campaigned against so is the wanton animal cruelty that is so common in Thailand - there is no Buddhist creed to cover this sort of stuff it stems for ignorance and greed........which most cultures deplore anyway."

When you go to the extreme of comparing a monkey being in a cage to cannibalism, well, basically you've surrendered your likelihood of being taken too seriously.

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Udornla, I'm a yank, also, and I find you an embarassment.

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Khunwilko said, "In reality it is not how many people pass through the education system, it is what they are taught. The Thai system - although undergoing change is very parochial empiricism is minimal and the result is that issues such as the environment animal welfare a are in general overlooked or fudged."

Damn! For once I am somewhat in agreement with you. Although, if you're going to be critical of Thailand's educational system, you might want to improve your grammar and punctuation skills. I only mention that (or spelling) in posts that relate directly to the lack of education in Thailand.

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Udornla, I'm a yank, also, and I find you an embarassment.

since you obviously believe all that entertainment news tells you, here and at home, you should be embarrassed. damn yanks, ignorant silent majority sitting on their brains watching the country go down the toilet.

i usually don't make judgments of people i don't know........one you might want to write down.

have a nice day.

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Sorry vinyl my post was intended for folks with comprehension skills of average or above......I'll try and write something you can understand later.....actually I'm kidding - I won't!

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Udornla said: "since you obviously believe all that entertainment news tells you, here and at home, you should be embarrassed. damn yanks, ignorant silent majority sitting on their brains watching the country go down the toilet. i usually don't make judgments of people i don't know........one you might want to write down. have a nice day."

Why do I imagine you sitting watching FOX News 24/7?

However, the topic was Thailand. Yes, I live here. I see its shortcomings. But I don't condemn masses of people for each and every shortcoming. My SO is in education at an influential level (I'll leave it at that). They are working very hard with limited funding to upgrade the curriculum and technology. I know people here in agriculture (and I don't mean the farming level...well, actually I know some rice farmers well, too). There have been extremely positive advances in Thai agriculture over the years, including in the area of multiple crops per year, and Thailand continues to be one of the largest exporters of rice in the world. Like India's basmati rice, Thailand's jasmine rice is considered among the best strains in the world. Do an internet search and you'll easily find some articles about significant advances in air quality in Bangkok (water pollution is quite a different story). Mass transit systems are used by tens of thousands per day in Bangkok. Food cleanliness has improved to a large extent since I first came here in 1987. I could go on.

Place along side of those advances and you still see too much poverty. Too many children not in school or not in school long enough. Water pollution and rubbish. Too many stray dogs and cats. I could go on and on about the negatives, too.

You choose to condemn a whole nation. I choose to see a nation full of individuals.

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Why do I imagine you sitting watching FOX News 24/7?

god no, i don't even have cable tv, only watch when on holiday here, and after one hour, realize why i don't have or watch at all at home. the perfect example of entertainment tv.

see, we are not that far apart.

Place along side of those advances and you still see too much poverty. Too many children not in school or not in school long enough. Water pollution and rubbish. Too many stray dogs and cats. I could go on and on about the negatives, too.

agree, 'they' are doing many things right, though still a long way too go. though one of the largest if then the largest exporter of rice, their yield per rai/per year in not good, and a result of their poor farming practices.

You choose to condemn a whole nation. I choose to see a nation full of individuals.

we agree again, but 'they' need to get together and solve, force the gov't, who don't want to solve, the education system if there is any chance to compete in the world.

just had IT competition. 60 teams from asia, 27 of those teams were from thailand, china came in 1st, singapore 2nd, no surprises there. vietnam, 3rd place, bit surprising....best thai team, 19th...........the 4 teams from the university it was held at, i think came in 54th, 57th, 58th, 60..dead last........so they do need to work on things.

IT news

two things thailand is lacking in, education, health care, which are two basics i think every country should provide, especially better services here, 'for the masses', not just the rich.

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vietnam, 3rd place, bit surprising

not at all. ~8 years ago, some of the Vietnamese students were already making it into the equivalent of the dean's honors list for computer science majors in the National University of Singapore.

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