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Is there an alternative for not so expensive shipping your vehicle (motorcycle)
from Bangladesh/India to Thailand If going through Myanmar is not an option?

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621
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What exactly do you mean by ^shipping^ your Motorcycle? Are you attempting to ride it from India to Thailand? Or are you trying to deliver the motorcycle on its Own?

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622
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Well i want to RIDE across, But in case its not possible for the time.
yet trying to figure things out

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It is possible to ride across the border from India into Myanmar. You have to obtain the necessary permits to be able to do it. An entry Permit costs US $80, but you can't get just an entry Permit, you have to get an exit permit as well even though you won't be exiting back into India. So you have to pay US $160. Crazy rule, but that's how it works I'm afraid. The permits take around 4 weeks to obtain and can be got from any agencies in Myanmar that are licenced to sell MTT permits. There isn't really any other cheaper or easier way to get from India to Thailand overland.

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Is a visa needed in addition to the MTT permit?

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625
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YES. I don't know if you need the visa before you can apply for the MTT permit, I would assume you Do, because the visa details would be used on the permit paperwork. All the agencies that are licensed to issue MTT permits can be contacted easily by e mail and would be able to advise you on the finer points of it. I read a story recently of being able to obtain the permit quicker if you pay More! I don't know if this is true Thou, or just a Rumour!

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One last update with what happened to our overlanding plans to India, sorry it took me a while.

So, we were going to cross from Thailand (Myawady) to Tamu/Moreh with bicycles. Found one agency (Burma Senses / Asia Senses) who offered to organize the permits without need for a guide. All others we contacted said this was not possible at all. Managed to get a group of 6 cyclists together as was cheaper with more people.

They changed rules/options a few times, apparently both in Tamu and Myawady staff has changed recently and the current ones are extremely diligent/bureaucratic. We were told that Tamu would only let you leave after checking with Myawady that we entered already in a group, with correct permit, on the prescribed date.

So we got the permits from the agency, however when entering in Myawady staff insisted despite what the permit said we could only go with pilot car, guide and officer of Ministry of Hotel and Tourism with us all the time(!!) (ruling out any "cheating", too). Apparently they called lots of senior Ministry staff and decided that the permit could not be honored any more. Everybody was friendly and we had the impression they really just wanted/had to to follow the rules from high up/not make any mistakes, bribes were never suggested! Ministry of Hotels and Tourism and Immigration are quite separate and we gathered that Ministry staff were the "problem" in our case. Eventually our agency told us they saw no way to make it work and literally abandoned us at the border - not OK! A few more hours of discussion got us to at least keep our visas - we had to return to Thailand for the night, but were allowed in as "regular" tourists only the following day.

The agency did refund all our money right away, so lost quite a bit on this, too. Not sure if they were just too optimistic or naive, had overestimated their contacts, ...

I spent a lot of time trying to organize this and am pretty sure for the time being crossing Myanmar to India overland is currently impossible. Have not heard of anyone just showing up at the border and getting through, but did hear of people showing up and not getting through.

Options you have now seem to be Exotic Myanmar - but only if you want to go India to Thailand. They can do individual permits to enter from and leave to India for 2x$80, people can usually leave to Thailand even though they are not supposed to. Must be applied for before entering Myanmar. Thai to India this does not work, they said clients who tried where not allowed to leave at Tamu.

We heard rumors the situation may go back to normal maybe in April ($80 permits, no same border rule), if you have time maybe you get lucky.

Last, you can go on an organized tour. This has always been possible and will set you back about $500/person for 4 days if you are several people. It is not possible to join another group once in the country and say, just go for a day from Mandalay. Four days rushing through the country makes only sense for overlanders by motorbike or car, where flying isn't really an alternative, in my opinion ...

We really enjoyed our almost six weeks in Myanmar nevertheless, don't let this keep you from going! We have now cycled back to Bangkok via Dawei and are flying to Kolkata on Thursday :(

It was still great to meet so many interesting people due thanks this - staying so cool and calm all 10 hours stuck at Myawady it was almost fun!

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Maybe there is hope - this article from the Myanmar Times Nov 2016 ....

" Pilgrims, traders and adventurous holidaymakers can soon look forward to the opening of a new border gate between India and Myanmar, officials say. Immigration Minister U Thein Swe said the new international border gate at Tamu, Sagaing Region, would open soon"

For the full article ....

http://www.mmtimes.com/index.php/national-news/23963-myanmar-and-india-to-open-new-international-border-gate-in-tamu.html

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Any update that entry permit to enter myanmar from India overland still need to be issued together with exit permit ?

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The same rule still applies at the moment. If you buy an entry visa, you have to pay for the exit visa as Well!

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