Bush and his cronies only want to open up Burma for their own religious/financial ends, just the same motivation that led them to invade Iraq. If this is acceptable to you as a motive which may inadvertantly lead to a better outcome for the Burmese people, then go right ahead and praise Bush for his dramatic intervention. But don't try and make him look righteous. And don't criticize me for doing what the Burmese people cannot do, and what you want them to be able to do, which is to have the right to speak their minds in public.
CK, was the purpose of your post to offer support to the Burmese people, or to provide an opportunity for you to defend Bush in the guise of supporting this worthy cause? Why bring up all this political crap? Why not just write a supportive post, or contribute to the many others already posted? To quote you: "This branch is about Burma, not your or my politics." So why start another politics-baiting thread?
By the way some of you are carrying on in this thread (Mr Mookie excluded), one would think that you're the f**n victims in this tragedy. Wake up and smell the coffee .. it's not about you .. hundreds of people have just made the ultimate sacrifice in Burma for God's sake.
one of the reasons why the Burma issue gets so very little attention is because the anti-American brigade find it very difficult to use it as a stick to bash the US with.
as for the Reds/Communists/Trots, they're still pretty reluctant to criticise a Chinese ally. They do criticise it to an extent, but Burma, despite it's appalling record oppressing Labour activists and trade unionists, isn't the first cause they rally round. Were it an American rather than a Chinese ally, they would give it much more attention than they do.
mookie, you were one of the ones I was talking about - and you knew it, didn't you. Here, as elsewhere, you twist posts to make yet another political statement re "Bush and his cronies," e.g., "... praise Bush for his dramatic intervention. But don't try and make him look righteous..." Or "was the purpose of your post to offer support to the Burmese people, or to provide an opportunity for you to defend Bush in the guise of supporting this worthy cause?" I have thanked Bush for his intervention and suggested that others do the same, but I've never tried to make him look righteous and this would hardly constitute a defence of him or his policies. Though I've never voted for Bush, I hope he'll do more re Burma - like I hope the UN will do more - like I hope China will step up. Do any of these meet (what you think is) your highly principled position? Search on back through my posts on Burma and see what a phony argument you've put up.
"So why start another politics-baiting thread?" Well, to tell you the truth I was trying to get you and others to stop the Bush/US bashing and maybe do something constructive. You're really not that far from the other side of the coin of the Newt Gingrich, Swift Boat Vets, Clinton-bashing crowd. It's just plain destructive and not at all helpful (but you are free to do it, of course).
viagra, several days ago, in this thread I said to you, <blockquote>Quote
<hr>Viagra, please, it's not to say this or that idea is bad. The facebook thing doesn't grab me either, but I'm glad that person is doing something. I said above, there are several things you and I can do - and I think we should try.
I wish you would give an idea or two as opposed to criticizing others. And this is not one of those smart-ass TT things where you can feel the sarcasm or whatever behind a question or statement - I wish yoooouuu would give an idea. No, I really am asking.<hr></blockquote> And you still have no answer other than the same do-nothing cynical stuff (criticizing others) as before. You've found a fellow traveler in mookie.
Here are updated (active) links on Burma
There was an article posted several days ago by gumnaam - Guardian article on complicity - it is worth reading to see who is at the trough.
bun cha
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If the US has any interest in Myanmar, its not for the energy, its to hedge against China...
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<hr>mookie, you were one of the ones I was talking about<hr></blockquote>
I thought you were talking about Burma. Were you using Burma's agony to vent your spleen?
mookie, you are so cute and clever - read the OP for the answer to your question/attempt to twist my words.
Here's some reading material for you - elevate your mind or whatever: Refugees (Burma is two clicks away, unless you stop off at Anne Frank)
bun cha
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