Tools4Fools - I'm not "looking for" anything in particular and I cannot therefore be looking for what you seem to think I am looking for. I was simply asking a question about what to expect in Burma. Funny thing is, I knew when I posted it that someone would try to have their sport with the post.
The arrogance of some people on this forum is ridiculous in the extreme. You guys seem to wait to pounce on anything you possibly can in some sort of sport of trying to make people look stupid so that you can look so well informed and travel savvy. Sure, there are a lot of idiotic things posted on this forum which are crying out for an appropriate response but some people here will take a perfectly legitimate question, add a dose of total presumption about the poster and change the intent of their post to suit their own "sport". To that bunch of people - calm down and get a life. It's an open public travel forum and you guys are not the police.
"Ïts an open public forum......." Yep, you got it, everyone free to state their opinion, not pleased to get "negative "comments ?, maybe you should avoid forums and just read your guide book
nijkerk - I've been contributing to this forum for years. It's a place for people to exchange information and opinion. I am not the only person who gives valuable input who is a little bit sick of the vulture-like behaviour of some posters, but let me be one of those who is prepared to say so.
Fine, but its a forum. open to all and therefore all points of view and attitudes, no point getting wound up about i t. I personally would prefer an interesting 'vulture"post than those asking about which shoes they should wear, will it rain next month, will I like it ,shall I take a sweater , etc. etc. But it takes all kinds.........
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Indeed, that's why I will write what I think. And I think your worry about Myanmar is funny and contradicts itself.
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Neither are you.
But at least you're always polite and not showing any arrogance at all. Like here:
Jeeez...
Nough said, wasting my time here.
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nijkerk, I agree and there are a lot of clever and amusing posts responding to stupid posts which I also get lots of entertainment from. I just think it was ridiculous to suggest I should be going to Phangan, anywhere in Thailand or anywhere in Laos when I just asked how many people are travelling in Burma at the moment.
tools4fools - fair point and maybe I didn't phrase my initial question very well but just for the record, I wasn't "worried", was just wondering, since I don't know anyone who has been there.
Anyway, enough time has been wasted on this already.
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Some of what you say is sort of true, about this forum, me as guilty as anyone, but just so you know, your question strikes a nerve due to the fact it is kinda odd the way you phrased it...you can handle the flak...right?
So, just to ease your concerns, the traveler in Burma is a special breed, and you will meet some interesting people, with a rich travel history, thats a promise.
Burma also is a great country to meet locals, and hear some sad and depressing stories, that will make you tell more people to go, and you will be glad you went, IMHO-
I met a Belgian man that was there for his 12th trip, and had been almost everywhere, he was a chain smoker and heavy drinker, and had a great sense of humor, we met at Royal GH in Mandalay and did a share taxi to Hsipaw, and ended up enjoying eachothers company over New Years. He was fluent in Burmese, and knew people everywhere he went...
Another guy I met and hung out with a dude from Seatlle, had a home in Chiang Mai, dealt in antiques and coins, he ended switching GH to Rememberence Inn at Inle Lake, we had dinner and rented boats, went to Tguanggyi to the defunct Gem market (black market), and had a great time, not much in common, but out love of new cultures and adventure...he had been there 6 times...spoke Burmese, and was connected in Bangkok.
In Ngapali beach, Xmas eve was at a table with a huge tour operator from Vienna, and his lovely wife, we drank wine all night and spoke about Politics and life....
In Yangon, the Bar at the Savoy is a whos who of people that have been in Burma years, mostly Britts, they drink a lot, know a immense amount of facts, and had a great wit about them...
Hsipaw at Mr Charles was a global affair, and after midnight, with a bonfire and plenty of booze, rum and beer, 2 Aussies, 1 Swiss, 2 Italians, 2 Germans and my Belgian buddy, and 1 more guy, a school teacher from Japan, that was on his holiday, 3rd time in 10 years to Burma, and he was a American, from St Louis, my home town years ago, and we went to the same High School that each class had 250..we knew many of the same people, and of all the places to meet, and he was about only the 6th American I met...in 20 days....
So, make it what you want, but make friends....travel is also being a pal to a stranger...
Right Celestine....we met in Laos....
Ticotim, thanks. And yes, I can take flak where it's due. At the risk of labouring this thread, let me just say. I am a Western femaie who has travelled over the years to many places where there have been few, if any, other Western travelers, or at least not in the same place at the same time as me. While these have always been great experiences and it wouldn't put me off going somewhere, as a western woman sometimes you just want to hang out in the evening over a few beers and chat with some people. In many places, local women don't drink and nor do they hang out with foreigners at night. In many places, hanging out with local men over a few drinks is not always an option. Sometimes it is fine, sometimes not. This is not a problem for Western men traveling in foreign countries. So, even though my question has been answered I just wanted to clear up the intent of my initial question.
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