Asia in July with little kids

Better beaches in Sabah than in Sarawak.It's not really a great beach place but there are some decent ones there.

... and to connect the decent beach spots with the other attractions, one will have to travel long distances - far more than in Bali.
And the rewards will be fewer, and far less diverse.
It's also going to be more expensive.

Hi,

i did some reading on Bali, Lombok (Gillis) and to be honest I found a lot of articels/posts reporting a big problem with ever growing crowds (especially in high season) and a hug issue with littered beaches and islands. The pictures I saw are -to be honest- quite repelling. I know that Asia is not always the cleanest place. I can only compare to Koh Samui/Phangan and that is the absolute maximum I find "acceptable" rg. garbage.

I'm just writing this because it scared my of those Islands (and maybe Indonesia) a bit...

Oh well.
Try Singapore then.

;) - i know that there are differences. Thats why I compared it to our stay on Koh Samui which was fine (and a big difference to Singapore...

e.g. this: https://www.myadventuresacrosstheworld.com/bali-indonesia/ (even if thats not the norm - it's still something to worry about)

See #3.
I can't be bothered to keep repeating.

The Gilis are very crowded with tourists.So are a few of the beach resorts on Bali.

That still leaves a lot of the place that is not really crowded though.Even if July/August is a peak season there.

IF you want somewhere with fewer(foreign)tourists,there are plenty of other Indonesian islands.They don't have the same facilities and convenience that you have with Bali though.

Lombok has lots of quieter spots.Or you could try Flores?

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