Low cost flights?

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<hr>But I am saying that since wages are higher and for example Thai airways there will be higher skilled pilots. this is economics abc.<hr></blockquote>

So by way of your logic, we can therefore generalize that TG will never crash right? And we can expect this so-called higher skilled pilots not to make any grave errors that can endanger the lives of the passengers right?
Oh and not to mention, avoid Indonesian pilots.

#19- how kind of you questioning the skills of the late pilot when in fact you or we didnt even know waht is going there when its happen. I always believe and I trust the pilot thats why I love to take planes,no pilot will endanger the life of his passengers let alone himself not unless in a suicidal conditions.Now, you want to know the skills and experience? why dont you get his resume first before you give that conclusion.
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<hr>And if you buy a laptop second hand from some unknown taiwanese brand do you expect it to hold up as well as a IBM thinkpad?<hr></blockquote>

and where all IBM thinkpad parts originated??? DO you know , thats its all came from TAIWANNNN...come on.The difference between planes are their paint , the interiors, but they are all made in TAIWAN as your IBM thinkpad does,lol.

Another point is that the difference between 'budget' and 'regular' airlines (whatever those terms may mean) are getting smaller. Many flag carriers own parts of, or even fully control seemingly independent budget model airlines that compete directly with their own flights - aiming to keep control in their market rather than dealing with a newcomer. Then you see that many flag carriers are dropping some of the their prices and services to budget airline levels.

Deregulation and (finally) implementing fairer rules has lead to the uprise of budget airlines, and flag carriers were forced to follow. Budget carriers in themselves are not per se 'dangerous' and I'm sure that in countries with proper regulations they crash just as often or seldom as other airlines. Airline maintenance and pilot training starndards are the same the world over, except in a few dodgy countries that have been exposed by the EU ban (Indonesia, some African countries).

Rather than choosing not to board budget airlines, it would be wiser to avoid flying with local airlines in these countries.

>For me budget airlines will now be a minimum. Also because of the general hassle involved.
If you've ever used airlines like Germanwings or Air Berlin you'll see that they actually offer higher standards (quality, punctuality, friendliness) than BA or KLM, and at bargain prices.

I use Air Asia quite a bit, have never had a scary flight, neither on any other airline. I'll still use them for my SEA connections.

Good good, no I have only flown with asian low budget carriers and apart from the poor customer service I was very satisfied with the pay. But really and I am getting a little irritated here, consider that there will be a difference in the skill level of people involved. Same in any business, pay more expect more qualified people. So if you want to fly budget, then do so, but you cannot deny that established airlines have better trained pilots. And in the case of Ryan Air in Europe pilots where forced to fly non stop for up to 24 hours. Just consider this.

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<hr>And in the case of Ryan Air in Europe pilots where forced to fly non stop for up to 24 hours<hr></blockquote>

now your exagerrating,even a cleaner in an office is not allowed to work 24 hours how much more a pilot?

The majority of aircraft accidents are due to human error. One of the biggest factors is pressure on the flight crew to complete the flight as per the schedule. Persisting with a flight in adverse conditions is possibly the number one cause of accidents.

With a low budget carrier, operating margins are razor thin. Every flight must go according to schedule. Even lengthy taxiing must be avoided in order to save costs. Pressure on pilots to land whatever the conditions are enormous. As long as the airport is open, pilots feel an obligation to attempt a landing.

Having said that, it must be acknowledged that almost without exception established airlines are also operating on a low budget model these days.

Why was Phuket airport open in such atrocious conditions? Who knows, but since both the pilot and copilot are dead, I have no hesitation in predicting that in 12 to 18 months time a board of inquiry will announce that the flight crew were solely to blame for the disaster.

OK #26, let's see. I think one fact that everyone on here who's flown these low cost carriers can agree on is that they're on time performance is pretty bad compared to the larger carriers. If you're plane arrives on time, you've got some pretty good karma going!

So if pressure to keep on schedule is a large factor in safety, or lack there of, wouldn't that "theory" make the major carriers more dangerous? Obviously these budget carriers must not have much pressure to keep on schedule if they're consistantly late!

"Every flight must go according to schedule" If that's so, how are they all still in business?

I always give myself plenty of time for flights on Air (Del)Asia. 90% of the flights I've been on leave late (including early morning ones). I flew Siem Reap- Kuala Lumpur- Surabaya- Jakarta- Kuala Lumpur- Siem Reap last month. Not one flight left on time, the first one to Surabaya arrived three hours late!
As long as the people don't complain (I was the only one) Tony Fernandez won't change a thing. And, of course, he's got lots of money, licenses (and many 'other' things) to operate airlines need to be paid for... A bit of palm greasing seems to be the norm with all airline operations in SEA (Bangkok/Siem Reap Airlines, Bagan Airlines, Air Asia just to name a few).

One thing though I read online that the Thai carrier was owned by Thai Airways and that Thai Airways also crashed on Phuket a couple of years ago. The article suggested to check first which company owns the low cost carrier and then looking at the safety records of that company.