Lost Tibet

There are numerous historical maps that show Tibet independent of China. What many people don't know is that China made claims that Bhutan and Nepal were also part of China as well, but due to the presence of the British in the Indian Sub-Continent, the Chinese could never enforce their claims

Maps 9-13 I have provided links for are from the website of the Hong Kong University - Science and Technology Library
http://library.ust.hk/info/exhibit/maps-9706/map-gallery2.html

1. 1935 - look at the glass map following link
   http://www.marybakereddylibrary.org/exhibits/mapparium

This map is a hollow globe that you can walk through if you are even in Boston

1. 1898 - http://www.archetypal.com/xanadu/gallery/tibetan_map.html

2. 1877 - http://tibettruth.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/map_hindoostan01_xl1.jpg

3. 1888 - http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/photolib/maps/Map%20of%20Tibet%201888.htm

4. 1906 - http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/photolib/maps/Map%20of%20Tibet%201906.htm

5. 1932 - http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/photolib/maps/Map%20of%20Tibet%201932.htm

6. Evolutionary maps of Chinese Empire
   http://www.zum.de/whkmla/histatlas/china/haxchina.html

7. A 1892 map of China that show both Tibet and Mongolia as part of China. Why are the Chinese making not making claims on Mongolia?

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/asia_1892_amer_ency_brit.jpg

1. 1625 map of China with Sichuan and West not part of China
   http://library.ust.hk/res/lib-db/MAPS/disk1/PDF/IMG0046.pdf

2. 1650 - http://library.ust.hk/res/lib-db/MAPS/disk1/PDF/IMG0047.pdf
   Map of Asia, with Tibetan regions part of India and Tartaria

3. Map of Inda, with Tibetan regions apparently in Inida
   http://library.ust.hk/res/lib-db/MAPS/disk1/PDF/IMG0024.pdf

12 http://library.ust.hk/res/lib-db/MAPS/disk2/PDF/IMG0040.pdf

1. http://library.ust.hk/res/lib-db/MAPS/disk1/PDF/IMG0077.pdf

To #9
I have lived in a Tibetan family for 2 years now. After 1 1/2 years I managed to convince them that we need to go to gonganqu to register me. No problems. A few police men checked my passport and took a copy of it. They asked why I'm here and I answered that I like it here.

And as to the educational standard. What figures are you comparing? Many nomads do not let their kids go to school as they are more useful at home. And many don't want to go. An example is that a school in Zhongdian is having a course about green technology and eco-tourism, which I think would be extremely beneficial as they learn computers, language, electrical technology, energy auditing, construction techniques and plumbing. The course is completely free, even bus tickets to arrive are paid for, as is food and room. The course accepts 15 students. I have 5 applications and people interested in it........1! Driving tourists makes more money and you don't need to study for that. Just get somebody to buy you a car.

A complex situation I won't buy into certainly in English or French.

I can give it to you in Finnish if you want

Not even in Chinese, sorry.

Is Chinese the only language you can read or what is the problem with other languages?

China took over Tibet 60 years ago and at that time and for a long time nobody cared.
That is until Buddhism and the Dalai Lama became fashionable. Even the Dalai Lama is smart enough to say that independence isn't the solution.
I was last year in Tibet and I was might disappointed because indeed I think that many people write about the country as some kind of Buddhist Disney World. But the country is very changed. It became a tourist attraction and all is used to make money. I was there 17 days last year and had enough chance to look around.

This year I will visit Bhutan and Sikkim. Bhutan has continuous problems at the border with China that just builds roads and uses Bhutan ground. Sikkim has army on the border to protect against the Chinese lack of respect for the borders of India. The South Chinese sea is a place where Chinese continuously invade the territorial waters of Vietnam and the Philippines and occupy islands claiming they are theirs.

I lived in China 9 months in 2007/2008 and went often to Hong kong. I red some articles in the local newspapers (English written) where it was written that the Chinese had taken over so much of the local administration and were busy destroying archives that are the only source of history writing. Together With archives with historical material records of ownership of vessels, ground and buildings were also being destroyed. It would became impossible in the future to claim whatever, because the records simply are gone. Meantime there is nearly nobody who speaks english in most shops in Hong Kong. It starts looking like China and soon free press will also be history there.
The communist party of China just celebrated 90 years and instead of going for some changes, they start new propaganda programs to remember the people that if their life is better now than it once was they should thank the party. but many people want changes, more social society and more freedom of expression.

When I was in China we had to go through a lot of work to get a satellite to receive foreigner TV in the home. At that time I watched a documentary on a Australian channel about the hunger and deaths caused by the five year programs for agriculture in the fifties in China. Even in the sixties they were still surviving in many places with nearly nothing to eat. The young chinese don't know about this and their parents won't tell it. Sad things are not nice to talk about.

Despise my criticism I still like China, because the country is more than it's government.

Nomad. Opposing views that are hard to assimilate. That's all.