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Hello!

I'm visiting China this October, just after the long public holiday which I'm hoping would mean things will be returning to normal. Here I am sharing my rough itinerary for the journey, and any thoughts, suggestions and ideas would be greatly appreciated! Especially regarding travelling between cities using trains and/or busses.

OCTOBER

12th - Arrive late in Chengdu
13th - Wuhou Temple, KuanzhaiJingZi and the Opera
14th - Jinshe and Liujing Old Town
15th - Journey to Xi'an (Either plane or hopefullt, if it has opened, the high speed train)
16th - Xi'an - Terracota Army Museum
17th - Xi'an
18th - Journey to Kaifeng via Train
19th - Millenium City Park
20th - Journey to LuoYang via Train
21st - LuoYang
22nd - LuoYang to PingYao via Train
23rd - PingYao
24th - PingYao
25th - Journey to Beijing via Train
26th - Beijing - Forbidden City
27th - Beijing - Museum
28th - Journey to Great Wall
29th - Return to Beijing
30th - Beijing
31st - Beijing to Tianjin/Qingdao via High Speed Train to board Ferry to Incheon

Thank you so much in advance!

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Can't really comment on the Sichuan section as I haven't spent a lot of time there. BUT, as regard the Shaanxi/Henan bit, why would anyone, in their right mind, go from Xi'an all the way to Kaifeng and then travel 75% of the way back to visit Luoyang? Furthermore, where and what is "Millenium City Park"?

As regard the 28th: "Journey to Great Wall" and 29th: "Return to Beijing", where do you intend to spend the night of the 28th?


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I loved Kaifeng but the 'Millenium City Park' was the least interesting pile of junk in the city. Make sure you check out the ShanShaanGan guild hall in Kaifeng, I have been in china for a long time and it is the most spectacular piece of Chinese architecture I have seen.

Agree with manchurian backtracking to Luoyang makes little sense. Also much of the great wall is in Beijing, so not sure where you are actually going on the 28-29th

3 nights in Pingyao seems excessive. I assume you are taking the HSR day trains rather than the sleepers. That makes for a LONG time in a very touristy little town.

27th - Beijing - Museum

Which museum are you talking about? Beijing has dozens, none of them particularly good or worth spending an entire day at.

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Plan on flying out of Chengdu to somewhere. I don't think HSR Chengdu-Xi'an will be happening by time of your trip.
I would probably cut Kaifeng and do one of the following:
(a) Fly Chengdu to Zhengzhou and transfer immediately (there is a shuttle bus) to Luoyang. Then go to Xi'an by fast train, then Pingyao, then Beijing. You could transfer to Kaifeng from Zhengzhou then go to Luoyang and proceed with this route from there.
(b) Fly Chengdu to Xi'an then go to Pingyao, then Datong, then Beijing. In this case Datong's Yungang Grottoes will substitute for Luoyang's Longmen Grottoes. IMO, the former are better than the latter anyway. You probably would have time to add Wutaishan between Pingyao and Datong, into this plan.

I don't think that you have the time allocations right just yet. And many trains on the Xi'an-Pingyao-(Datong/Beijing) route get sold out very quickly, so you should get this itinerary straightened out and put an order in with an agent for the critical train links, by mid-August. www.travelchinaguide.com and www.china-diy-travel.com are both reputable and commissions aren't too bad.

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Hello!

Thank you for the heads up on the backtracking, after reading the other comments I might remove Kaifeng altogether now. I was thinking of a homestay near the Great Wall or Camping on the Great Wall for the 28th evening. I'm still researching which one would be best. I know camping is considered illegal on some parts, that's why I'm want to go somewhere that is okay to do so.

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Thank you for the heads up on Kaifeng, I looked them up on tripadvisor and such and I thought it looks corny and kitschy enough to be worth a visit, because it looks really colourful and shows everywhere. Plus the Iron Pagoda looks interesting. But I will think about it, as like everyone is saying, it's backtracking a lot.

I was thinking of taking it easy in PingYao, like a mid break so that I can maybe spend a day or two just chilling somewhere and reading/sketching, that is why I allotted quite a lot there since it looks like a beautiful old city.

Beijing and The Great Wall, I want to visit all the big spots and taking it easy too, with all the history and grandeur, I thought I'll need time to take it all in. As for the museums, I'm still planning my days in Beijing. Which one do you think is the best?

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Hello Jie Jie!

Thank you! I think I might do you (B) option, but the reason I want to visit Luoyang is more because of the city, tombs and temples. I want to visit Guan Yu's Temple because I'm a fan of Romance of the 3 Kingdoms. So I might incorporate them into your suggestion. I agree that I should get this done asap and book the tickets. Thank you for the links, I will check them out. I'm just a bit overwhelmed by all the cities and spots to visit, along with on how to get there that's why I appreciate all your help!

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Thank you for the heads up on Kaifeng, I looked them up on tripadvisor and such and I thought it looks corny and kitschy enough to be worth a visit, because it looks really colourful and shows everywhere. Plus the Iron Pagoda looks interesting. But I will think about it, as like everyone is saying, it's backtracking a lot.

Like I said, Kaifeng is an awesome city, but it is a lot of back tracking. If they have their weekend night market when you visit it might be worth it though.

I was thinking of taking it easy in PingYao, like a mid break so that I can maybe spend a day or two just chilling somewhere and reading/sketching, that is why I allotted quite a lot there since it looks like a beautiful old city.

Pingyao is not a place to chill and rest. I would head all the way to Beijing and then spend a few extra days there.

I know camping is considered illegal on some parts, that's why I'm want to go somewhere that is okay to do so.

It is illegal to camp on the entire great wall. Some areas you are more likely to get caught/detained while others you could probably get away with it.

Beijing, I want to visit all the big spots and taking it easy too, with all the history and grandeur, I thought I'll need time to take it all in. As for the museums, I'm still planning my days in Beijing. Which one do you think is the best?

You currently have 3 days in Beijing city, 2 days getting to and from the great wall, 1 day getting up super early to try and catch a ferry in another town. To do Beijing's big spots, 3 days is enough but you will not have enough time to take it easy. The forbidden city and summer palace take most of a day each leaving you little time for Beijing's other sites.

As for museums, like I said not many of them are really world class. The Shanghai Museum is still China's best museum and it lags behind even other asian countries.

I believe the "National Museum of China" is Beijing's largest museum. It is on Tian'anmen square but is largely devoted to Chinese revolutionary history.

"Beijing Capital Museum" is perhaps Beijing's best appointed modern museum.
"The Military Museum of the People's Republic of China" is of interest to some people. It also reads like a revolutionary history museum, except with tanks and destroyed american aircraft. It also has a floor of kitchy gilt gifts given to China from corrupt governments around the world.

Technically the "Forbidden City" is called the "National Palace Museum" but do not get confused. It is not a museum.

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I was in Kaifeng in October last year when the crysanthemum festival was on and Millenium city park was fantastic. I went twice, once to see all the displays being set up ( lots of dragons and phoenixes made of flowers) and then to see the finished product. It's fun to be part of a big festival too. I don't know if the crysanthemum festival is on every year. There are lots of things to see in Kaifeng and it's a city really worth visiting.

Transport to Pingyao is a little more difficult, but it will be from Luoyang too. I got a bus from Luoyang to Kaifeng and then went to Nanjing on the high speed train. Your best bet is probably to go to Taiyuan and get a bus to Pingyao from there. Either you can go on an overnight train or you can go to nearby Zhengzhou and get a high speed train.

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Hello Jiejie,

I've just seen another post on the matter by you 2 years ago in reply to a post titled "Where to stop between X'ian and Shanghai + Trip ideas" (https://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/permalink/post/19983354) and would it make sense if I reverse my route route? So it'll be Chenhdu - Xi'an - PingYao - LuoYang - Kaifeng - Beijing.

And thank you for the links, I've just checked them out and they seem to be really helpful and efficient!

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