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Hi there,

I have been trekking in Nepal for many times.
I know if I hire porter from travel agency, they always says the fee includes porter's insurance, though I've never seen it.

I also knew that many of us just hire our porter right after we arrived Lukla.
This time, I also would like to hire one by myself.
He is one of my friends from local village.
I want to purchase insurance for him/them.
But because they don't speak English, it's a bit difficult to discuss with them about this.

I am wondering is there anyone ever purchased a insurance for your porter by yourself?
Where can I get this? Can I purchase that in Lukla? or have to be in Kathmandu?
Can I do this for him? or he shoould come in person?

It would be very helpful if anyone know and share some information here!

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I would suggest you just contact a trekking agency in Kathmandu... there is no insurance facility in Lukla. The person should not come to Kathmandu. Just need his name from his citizenship and detail date (for how long)?

Good Luck!!!

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I would like to see the coverage and read the Terms & conditions on that insurance if anyone has a copy in English.

http://www.ippg.net/
https://twitter.com/IPPGUK

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I would suggest you just contact a trekking agency in Kathmandu... there is no insurance facility in Lukla. The person should not come to Kathmandu. Just need his name from his citizenship and detail date (for how long)?

Good Luck!!!

Thank you for the information!

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You are Welcome JDwood!
do not hesitate to back to me if you have any questions.
Good Luck!!!

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I have done 8 quite long treks with one or other of my guides - two brothers, one per trek.

The first 5 treks they were engaged and paid directly by me (ie no agency was involved). My main guide, the elder of the two, either arranged his/his brother's personal insurance through an agency he also did work for, or directly with the Lumbini Insurance Company (LIC). For one trek all 3 of us went into LIC's offices whilst the insurance was arranged - the documents were of course all in Nepali (which I don't speak, let alone read). But my main guide said it was the insurer that the good agencies used, and that other guides had used for their private work. It was my main guide who made me aware of the legal, and practical, need for trekking staff to have good insurance - there is no social security in Nepal. They have always been very careful re their insurance. I arrange my own insurance in the UK before I leave for Nepal.

For our 3 most recent treks, 2014-16, due to changes in the rules or their enforcement, we have trekked on blue TIMS cards which can only be issued by an agency - blue TIMS cards are now required for anyone trekking with staff. This means that the agency is responsible for providing insurance for "their" staff - I still engaged and paid my guides directly. Both my guides would be checking that they agency, which they know, would arrange good insurance (some agencies may not, whatever the rules say...).

So you could pass on the suggestion of the Lumbini Insurance Company. Karl Edvard has lots of experience, so perhaps see what arrangements he makes. It will be much more difficult if you meet the person outside Ktm, but Nepalis are good at finding proper solutions to problems such as this. Uninsured staff would be a moral (and legal) risk, in my view.

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Hello,

Thank you for this useful information!
Wondering who is Karl Edvard, is he someone work with the insurance company?

Thanks again for your information, I will try to contact Lumbini Insurance Company.
If I got the news, then will reply here.

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Just found out Karl Edvard was just up there! XD

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I requested information from The International Porter Protection Group, here’s part of the dialogue:

Me: Could you comment on how trekkers in Nepal can purchase insurance for privately hired guides, guide/potters and porters?

IPPG: This has been a difficult issue for some time and despite our efforts we're still unable to establish what the easiest way it is to provide insurance for porters who trek independently in Nepal. There was talk of a small charge on the TIMS card a few years ago to provide insurance for porters but we don't think this actually happened. The trustees are actually going out to Nepal in the next few weeks and this is one of the issues we're looking at.

Me: It's a waisted opportunity when trekkers are willing to purchase insurance for porters/guides hired outside TAAN, but do not know how to. It would also be beneficial to translate insurance Terms and Conditions to English, so the employer (trekker) can understand what coverage the worker gets.

IPPG now have doctors on-site at Machermo (28. September).
https://www.instagram.com/ippguk/

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Thank you Karl for asking the information for us.

Seems everyone know the dark side of TIMS card, and no one knows where does the money go.
The other topic says EBC is going to charge another fee. But I guess even it really goes to local delevopment,
it sure won't goes to porter's insurance. Wondering why no insurance company in Nepal target trekkers who hire porter/guide privately. It could be a good business.

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