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Before a passport is issued to any person by or under authority of the United States such person shall subscribe to and submit a written
application which shall contain a true recital of each and every matter of fact which may be required by law or by any rules authorized by law
to be stated as a prerequisite to the issuance of any such passport. If the applicant has not previously been issued a United States passport,
the application shall be duly verified by his oath before a person authorized and empowered by the Secretary of State to administer oaths.

The "oath" is not one of allegiance; it is swearing that the application is "a true recital of each and every matter of fact."

Here it is,in its entirety:
I declare under penalty of perjury that I am a United States citizen (or non-citizen national) and have not, since acquiring United State citizenship (or U.S. nationality), performed any of the acts listed under "Acts or Conditions" on this application form (unless explanatory statement is attached). I declare under penalty that the statements made on this application are true and correct.

The Acts or Conditions include:
I have not, since acquiring United States citizenship, been naturalized as a citizen of a foreign state; taken an oath or made an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state; entered or served in the armed forces of a foreign state; accepted or performed the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or political subdivision thereof; made a formal renunciation of nationality either in the United States, or before a diplomatic or consular officer of the United States in a foreign state; or been convicted by a court or court martial of competent jurisdiction of committing any act of treason against, or attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing arms against, the United States, or conspiring to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force, the Government of the United States.

However, they do not necessarily preclude your getting a passport--you just have to explain them.

Edited by: nutraxfornerves


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It could be my particular circumstance that I need to swear an oath similar or the same as one taken in naturalization.... Since it is my first US passport, and I havent exercised US citizenship for so long. That was the message I got from the DHS,,, and the Post Office I went to while in the US.

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Renouncing is largely symbolic? Is that a legal opinion?

Although its there, there is no law or other provision requiring you to go through with it.
It's a relic of antiquated circumstances.

Speaking of legal opinions, how'd that lawyer turn out?

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However, they do not necessarily preclude your getting a passport--you just have to explain them. -- nutrax

I cant take that oath, clearly. Or I should write up my own oath or declaration in lieu of theirs explaining my circumstance. But to have to lie to get a US passport and afterward explain my circumstance is very weird indeed...

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To swear an oath that I have not made a formal allegiance to Canada is tantamount to renouncing Canadian citizenship.

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Speaking of legal opinions, how'd that lawyer turn out? -- bzoo

I always approach a lawyer with a preparedness of my case. So give me time to gather my material, and articulate a host of questions for my lawyer to pursue. I am paying them to work for me. Isnt that how you employ a lawyer?

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Don't know about the land border between Mexico and the US but it's a GREAT advantage to have this (NEXUS) card. --bpirther

I have an application form for a wallet sized card, filled out and everything. I dont know if that is the NEXUS card, but they told it is only good between Mexico, Canada and the US. That is sufficient for me since I have my Canadian passport for everywhere else...

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I am sure when it affects you personally you arent so brazen in your opinions...

Most of what I have said here is not opinion.

Just a side note:
If you put a ">" in front of text, it creates block text for quotes (like the first line in this post). Using two (">>") creates a second quote.

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Renouncing is largely symbolic? Is that a legal opinion?
Although its there, there is no law or other provision requiring you to go through with it.
It's a relic of antiquated circumstances. --bzoo

You seem to have an answer to everything. I am sure when it affects you personally you arent so brazen in your opinions...

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there is no law or other provision requiring you to go through with it. --bzoo

You havent been listening and simply repeat some anecdote, not of something you heard, not something you have experienced,,, Just something you feel to be correct. That's the worst kind of anecdote, and you dont even realize how stupid it sounds since it is very far from the truth...

ps thx for the tip on writing codes...

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