Cyber, hey don't bust on Zum Schnieder even in jest.... That place is awesome!
(Alphabet City... old skool).


Why would you go to City Island for German food. That's kinda like going to Germany for Chinese food.

<blockquote>Quote
<hr>drink fizzy beer in some ghastly faux German bar in Alphabet City<hr></blockquote>
Excuse me, but you know nothing. It's an authentic German restaurant, run by people from Munich. So there.

you can always try the YMCA'd, New York Hostels also 1 really good place in mid-town.
other laptop had a slow death so the url is lost.
Sorry but I hated Zum Schnieder. Those pallid sausages . . . yuck.
Bring back Mare Chiaro, that's what I say.

You prefer Mare Chiaro beer? Bud and Hennies over Kolsch?. I mean i love dives, but that wasn't even a dive. It closed huh?
Those pallid sausages are authentic of course (we're talking German food here). Next time try the Weiner Schnitzel. yum
<blockquote>Quote
<hr>It closed huh? <hr></blockquote>
All the places I love close. Manny's Carwash was another one.
Anyway, Mare Chiaro wasn't a "dive" it was just old school.

"old school?" hmmm. Bad beer selection, old drunks clogging the bar, smells like dive to me. Anyway, I hadn't been there in years. I put it on boycott after the Feast in 1990 or '91 when the bartender insisted my friend buy a beer if he's using the toilet (i was buying plenty).
Yeah, lots of good old places are closing up (McHale's on 46th and 8th is a tragic, tragic loss). Loads of other old and or dive places are still in NYC..... tons in fact. Gimme a neighborhood and i'll give you a bar, if i can't come up with one RiverOtter can.
Oh, fairly close to MC, is Milanos. A bit cozy, but very friendly old dive - in that old man drinking all day sort of way.