mexico DF to other cities by bus

In the vicinity of the D.F., the number of reported robberies and physical victimization of passengers seem to take place on local inter-urban busses traveling into/out of the state of Mexico ...large areas such as Ecatepec, Nezahualcoyotl, Chalco.

From a published report, today:

Big spike recorded in public transit theft

Robberies on public transit in the state of México spiked sharply in the first two months of this year, state government statistics show. ... According to data from the Attorney General’s office, there were 875 reports of violent robberies on buses in the first 53 days of the year, which equates to an average of 495 incidents per month. ... The monthly average last year was 325 when there was a total of 3,900 reported robberies. Many cases go unreported.

Source: https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/big-spike-recorded-in-public-transit-theft/

The government has repeatedly stated, over a period of many years, that only about 10% of crimes are reported.

LW

This is tacky, even for you #20. Regardless of how many years it's been since you've visited, I know you know that essentially zero foreign travelers are ever going to be anywhere near any of those places, much less on cheap, 5th class combi vans. Cuatitlán Izcalli, Ecatepec, Chalco... do you even know where those places are? Hint: they're not restaurants in Roma, nor are they streets in Coyoacan.

If you're going to post something like that, have the decency to put it into context: these robberies are on routes from the capital to outlying poorer neighborhoods and slums in the State of Mexico. Anyone casually traveling to Nezahualcóyotl is already fully aware that this is a possibility, and knows what to do if they're unlucky enough to be the victim of a hold-up on a 3rd class inner city bus: hand over your wallet and deal with it.

Essentially zero of this applies to foreign travelers. Come back with some dirt on ADO or ETN buses to Guanajuato or Oaxaca getting robbed if you really want something relevant to frighten people with... you're going to have a hard time coming up with more than two or three incidents in the past decade.

Essentially zero of this applies to foreign travelers.

LOL! I expected a stalker/troll to have a better response.

LW

Okay, you've had your fun. Please stop the name calling and bickering or we're going to have to remove content/lock the thread. Disagree by all means but show some respect when commenting.
Cheers,
Cosima

Man, if this is fun, I'd hate to see hard work. ;) Good point though.

How exactly, kind sir, does information about robberies on 3rd class buses outlying slums and poor neighborhoods on the outskirts of the city apply to foreign visitors looking to use Mexico's fine bus system to voyage to other cities? Would it be that mayhaps you might not be aware that these are a different kind of "bus," one that our illustrious foreign compatriots should oft never use the likes of?

Many routes only run overnight (Oaxaca to San Cris, for example)

In response to another enquiry, I checked at the central camionera in Oaxaca, and found that FYPSA offers one or two morning departures daily depending upon demand, so travelers have a choice.

Good point: I should've said "primarily" or mostly overnight. The point is, travelers shouldn't be bogged down by scare stories to the point of thinking that taking night buses is in any way unusual or dangerous. If a visitor looks at a route where 9 out of 10 departures are during the evening and feels compelled to stick to that one that isn't due to fears they got from reading people's ominous warnings about "night travel," then they've fallen victim to bad internet info.

Yes, there are choices. Some travelers cobble-together 3 segments starting early a.m. obviously, many people choose overnight travel ... even though the choice may result in a exhausting experience (it's a tiring trip for many of us, day or night).

When we've seen the question posed here it's sometimes met with misinformation. ... that night travel is the only option.

For some, overnight travel works best ... for others, it doesn't. I've made the journey both times of day ... and prefer daylight travel (primarily for reasons of comfort, but for safety ... too).

It's great when we have options; makes for better trips.

LW

Excellent points. If someone wants to avoid traveling at night because they want to see the cacti, or it makes them grumpy, or doesn't work with their schedule, then have at it... but anyone doing so because they're afraid that night routes are somehow more dangerous does not need to worry. It's just how the bus system works in Mexico, and it's safe as heck. There is essentially zero difference when it comes to safety, despite whatever internet myths are floating around out there.

OTOH, out of curiosity #25, what bus lines are you saying do the Oaxaca-San Cris trip during the day? I checked the ADO site and, yep, only evening departures. Surely you're not suggesting a 3rd class bus line or something? Because THAT does indeed involve safety issues.

Also keep in mind that just because you leave in the morning at 10:00 a.m. on a 12-hour journey doesn't mean that the whole thing is going to be in daylight. Not to point out the obvious, or anything.

what bus lines are you saying do the Oaxaca-San Cris trip during the day?

I wrote in my post: ¨...FYPSA offers one or two morning departures daily....¨; and they operate first class buses.