| joncanada00:00 UTC09 Mar 2007 | After spending many years lounging, drinking and whatever, I would like to go to Cuba with the prime purpose of contributing something to the country. Does anyone have any suggestions? I know about the Che Gueverra Work Brigade, and would like to know what else exists. I could go for 2, 3, or 4 weeks. Thanks
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| dannytran5300:07 UTC09 Mar 2007 | Volunteer labor Message OptionsSubscribe to ThreadE-mail ThreadPrint Thread I have talked to a couple of people who told me that while traveling in Cuba a few years ago they arranged to do volunteer labor on a farm for a number of weeks in exchange for room and board, ala WWOOFing, only without any prearranging.
However, my sense from tourist info I have read is that foreigners might not actually be allowed to participate in Cuban society in this way. lots of guidelines and controls on where they can take up lodging, make purchases, etc, that would seemingly make such an arrangement a legal liability, probably more for the farmer than the traveller. Does anyone have any experience, direct or indirect, in this realm? Thanks! dannytran53 Posted: 02 Mar 2007 9:31am (NEW!) 1. Message OptionsSubscribe to ThreadE-mail ThreadPrint Thread 37th Brigade - Summer 2006 The 37th contingent of the Venceremos Brigade will be in Cuba in the summer of 2006. Although exact dates have not been determined, the trip is 2 weeks long, and we anticipate being in Cuba in the first half of July.
If you are interested in joining us, please contact us to find out about the application process. www.venceremosbrigade.org dannytran53 Posted: 02 Mar 2007 9:34am (NEW!) 2. Message OptionsSubscribe to ThreadE-mail ThreadPrint Thread Cuba need your help, apply for the job please. Don't forget to bring your own equipment and your money.
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| 202500:12 UTC09 Mar 2007 | John, other than "Brigades" which are organized by interest groups, there ain't nothing else that is common public knowledge.
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| richardbees02:15 UTC09 Mar 2007 | John,
if you really want to help prolong the existing regime you can contactcuba solidarity UK and ask for their Canadian equivalent
They organise the 'work brigades' - which I find so very iffy!
Don't these volunteers realise that the monumentally massive USSR regime collapsed because 'communism' just didn't work?
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| richardbees02:33 UTC09 Mar 2007 | By the way, at least spell the name of your marxist hero correctly - 'Che Guevara'
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| rockon02:56 UTC09 Mar 2007 | I think you should go to Africa and try to help out if you feel that guilty about lounging and drinking.
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| ttjpdo09:12 UTC09 Mar 2007 | If you want an organized program, and are willing to do farmwork, the Venceramos Brigade, mentioned above, is the most well-known group, which has been going on for decades. It is organized by the Cuban government, which naturally charges for the time it invests in food, lodging, health care, translation services, training, transportation, supervision, and organization of all of those services for the volunteers; thus one must pay for this experience, as it is not one Cuba (or any poor country) is in a position to provide for free. If you prefer to go as an independent, once people get to know you on any farm, I doubt your offer to help out with the work would be refused. BUT...this could not be IN EXCHANGE for food and lodging; this sort of program does not, to my knowledge, exist in Cuba. You cannot lodge just anywhere in Cuba, and most certainly, you cannot lodge on a farm just because you happen to be volunteering there. The only places you can legally stay in Cuba are places which are licenced to host foreigners. Apart from the usual tourist lodgings, these would include private homes licenced to rent rooms to foreigners, but these are normally in towns which have enough foreign visitors to support such enterprise. There are also campismos, the Cuban version of a campground, but most of these, being in the mountains or on the beach, are not well-located to provide easy access to a farm where one might hope to volunteer.
There are some farms, principally government-owned research facilities, where, if you wanted to pay something on the order of 50 CUC per week, you could stay and do a work/study program. This would include dorm lodging and simple meals. Dr. Alberto Fuentes Azcuy and Dr. Marguerita Vidal did run such a program, about 40 km from Havana. I do not know if they still do, or if this e-mail is still valid, but you can check: fazcuy@inca.edu.cu
There is also a estacion ecologica (environmental research station) in the Zapata Swamp, about 5 km north of Playa Larga at the head of the Bahia de Cochinos (Bay of Pigs). There were some foreign reseachers when I passed through a couple of years ago, staying in simple but comfortable private rooms which rented for about 15 CUC/night. However, the facility had only four such guest rooms. I was told that anyone could stay there and go out with the reserchers, but I expect one would need some kind of scientific or research background in order work there--even as a volunteer.
And of course, if you go to Cuba and simply hang out with the folks, I'm sure many of them would welcome assistance fixing up a home, making repairs to some public building, or whatever kind of project might be going on, but... this would require you to spend some time in that community, getting to know people, to the point that they feel comfortable enough with you to accept your offer to participate. You should be prepared to supply your own tools and materials--or buy them. The reason for this is simple: Cuba has people, who are generally capable and far better educated than the majority in most poor countries. What they lack are financial resources (materials and tools) to do many jobs. One example would be plumbing and wiring, which in most homes and many public buildings is in appalling conditions. (I don't suppose that among the skills you would be willing to volunteer would be those of a competent electrician or plumber?
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| jasiak14:13 UTC09 Mar 2007 | You'll find some way, but naturally you'll have to pay a fair bit of money for doing the work.
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| yucca12315:21 UTC09 Mar 2007 | I was waiting for someone to post just that. Volunteering in Cuba for 2,3 or 4 weeks will COST YOU as much as Club Med.
You have to pay for the privilage of working for the Rob-o-lution.
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| dannytran5318:05 UTC09 Mar 2007 | Just coming back from a volunteer work in Cuba I can let you know my modest experiences but quite rewarding personally: The first project I decided to do is to clean up part of Guanabo beach. Cubans don't have the same awakeness of salubrity and they littered the beach with plastic bags or broken beer glasses: I cleaned up a big part of the beach to the astonishment of some cubans. Some did come to help. I was haunted by the fact that anybody can seriously injure himself if cutted by broken glasses. The second project was to shovel all the sand dunes along a back road parallel to the beach. The sand is a real physical barrier for all cars and they use to call up a bunch of people to push the cars through that obstacle. I asked the help of one Cuban and got to pay for his time but we cleared the way. Well those are my very modest contributions, and while not involving government agency or implicating huge amount of money, anyone can help and do something, anything that can make a better tomorrow for anybody. I think that is the essence of your posted question.
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| zedmans18:31 UTC09 Mar 2007 | OP...thats the F...Ck..G stupidest post I have read here.....AA....K
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| ttjpdo21:27 UTC09 Mar 2007 | Thanks for posting your first-hand experience, #9. It's the sort of thing which anybody can do as a volunteer--but which only a thoughtful person would think of. Very impressive.
Zedmans: if you want to see the stupidest post ever on this branch, read #10, posted by you.
Yucca123: Are you brain-dead, or what? Each time you have posted that volunteering in Cuba will "cost," I have explained to you that it costs to volunteer ANYWHERE. That cost can be quite small, as in the case of Poster #9, who paid someone to help shovel sand out of the highway. Or it can cost the several thousand dollars charged by agencies who organize activities for international volunteers, and must provide a whole host of services for them, ranging from transportation to translation to looking after their medical needs. I promise you, the organization involved in making it possible for people to have the experience of contributing to a country in which they are not native and have no contacts is a very complicated business, and carries with it a ton of responsibility. In addition to the people who actually work (often as volunteers) to make a volunteer experience possible, there are commercial agencies which charge upwards of US$1000 simply to FIND a place where a person from one country can volunteer in some other country. The other things which you can't seem to grasp is: (a) for some people, the experience of doing what the poster proposes--contributing something to a poor country--is far more interesting than a week at a stupid Club Med; and (b) anyone who volunteers in Cuba--or anywhere else--is not doing it for the Revolution. They are doing it for themselves, because it is, almost always, a worthwhile experience.
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| zedmans22:23 UTC09 Mar 2007 | # 11 tipitoes...your info here is apreciated......buzz off on me...K.....I have never said anything to YOU.......
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| zedmans22:28 UTC09 Mar 2007 | And #11.....your replies are as great as they are, are quite tiresome...just reading them bores the hell out of me.........dont be confritative....with ME...
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| joncanada23:47 UTC09 Mar 2007 | hey folks..thanks to those of you who made constructive, intelligent replies...to those of you like Ucca, Rockon, Richard Bees and zedmans...take your sarcastic, bitter comments somewhere else and leave this website to people who want to make the world a better place to live!
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| rockon00:51 UTC10 Mar 2007 | My comment was not meant as sarcasm, you misguided soul, it was a very serious one. Of all the places in the world (like Africa) where you can make a serious impact on lives,why Cuba? Do you have romantic tropical visions?
Let us know how hard the Cubans were laughing, at you.
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| joncanada01:17 UTC10 Mar 2007 | Huh! Rockon, I should have known, you're a brainwashed American!!!!! In that case, I would expect you to this I am a misguided soul! Well the Cubans are laughing at you right now as they drill for oil! Go back to work for the Republicans, speaking of misguided souls!
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| richardbees01:49 UTC10 Mar 2007 | John,
Please do not generalise!
I didn't make a "sarcastic, bitter comment...." I just do not believe it makes any sense for someone from Canada to donate two weeks to working on the land......... if you want to make a contribution it's much better you donate two weeks salary and buy much-needed medicines which you then either take to Cuba or give to 'Pastors for Peace'
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| rockon01:59 UTC10 Mar 2007 | Listen, Cubans are great at drinking and lounging, another reason a guy like you should consider volunteering in Africa rather than Cuba.
If you are going to volunteer to take few of them out for drinking and lounging while you're there, I'm sure they'll be grateful and never forget you, until the next tourist/volunteer comes along.
Maybe your noble gesture at volunteering should begin at home, in your own backyard (I know, it's not an exotic tropical location) before you decide to help out the rest of the world.
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| yucca12302:42 UTC10 Mar 2007 | Easy there....
I understand the whole wonderful volunteering concept. In three weeks, I too am volunteering. Im traveling to Spain (Palma de Majorca) where I am volunteering at the beach with a great big umbrella drink. Them I'm off to Paris where I am volunteering to walk around and see the sights not to mention shopping. Them I'll volunteer to go back to the USA for two days then home to the DR.
Is that enough "volunteering for you guys.
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| cubafish03:51 UTC10 Mar 2007 | Hmmmm, Yucca my friend, I'm in Paris about the same time, returning from a fishing trip in the Indian Ocean (got there via fairy of course). Debemos satisfacer en París e intentar quizá la versión francesa de un Mojito?
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