Okay Okay
Obviously Dale is asking anyone he can that stayed there to write on the LP Forum. As the posters above, all first timers, which lends little credibility and even more suspicion to the entire rebuttal.....
Gee, all of sudden these people register on the LP, and find this thread???
Give me a break- Dont forget to respond on Trip Advisor too-
Expecting luxury, a lake view, or even daily cleaning of your room might be a bit much and, dare I say, smells more like a whiney, pampered tourish, rather than poor service by Honduran standards.
You are making a whole set of assumptions here that reveal your bias. No one said they expected luxury. We were paying US $35 (not $15 as you assumed) for our room at D&D and paid about that for most of our three weeks in Honduras without any complaints about other places. I think I have a very good understanding of what that should get you in rural Honduras and D&D didn't come close to delivering it. I also specifically said I didn't care about daily cleaning of my room; but having overflowing waste cans of used toilet paper for three days is disgusting and you insult Hondurans to say that is acceptable. Expecting hot water when you are paying for hot water is not exactly being whiny and pampered. Sheesh. We didn't have a good time at your friend's place and just maybe it has something to do with how he runs his business. I would have to say that you are not doing him a service to post on here in such an insulting and argumentative tone.
Karchita and SoloHobo,
You have correctly identified my bias...I enjoyed my stay at D&D Brewery and would go back again. No secret there...I said as much in my post. You did not enjoy your stay and that is your bias, clearly.
Robert Dale isn't a friend of mine, just the proprietor of one of the many hostels that I stayed at in my travels. My intent in my post was to communicate to the readers of this thread what my own experience+ was and that's all I described. I didn't assume you were paying $15 a night...that is what +I was paying for my stay there. I enjoyed it and, when things return to normal at the D&D, I think others will too. Please don't attack me for caring enough about this issue to register on ThornTree and post here. Why is my opinion worth less than yours? Just because I haven't posted here hundreds (Karchita) or tens of thousands (SoloHobo) of times?
I reiterate that we witnessed nor heard about any abuse of the staff. All the people we met there seemed to enjoy their stay. Our bill was calculated fairly and Robert and staff helped us and others in many ways that they didn't have to. I heard no complaints at all from anyone while I was there.
That's it, guys. You'll get no petty arguments from me, nor thousands of posts. People should make their own decision about whether to stay at D&D based on facts and truth. That's all I've got to offer them and you.
DREBNENKI
How did you know about this thread and complaint?
Answer that? We didnt fall off a turnip truck yesterday. I have 10,000 post due to contributing and reading post over 7 years on this region. I know that its amazing coincidence when all of sudden these post appear out of nowhere from people that just joined the forum, and only offering a out of the blue opinion and thats the end of it.
If it were not for the regulars that keep tabs on all this, who would keep the posting honest. It obvious D & D Brewery has some issues, and the owner is perceived by multiple people as a arse.
Had the response of #15 not been made, the entire post would of been buried and forgotten, but now its turned into a nightmare for the brewery.
I am waiting for another new poster to make a first post, saying how great this place is, wanna bet?
Solo Hobo, I heard about this website through my daughter and she was telling me some of the things said about a person that I know, personally. I am truly sorry that you feel you must attack new comers to this website, no matter what they are saying. I thought that this was a forum where you could post information about certain places, I did not know that by doing so would open people who enjoyed their time at D & D Brewery to ridicule just because they have a different opinion than you do. I don't know where you originate, but thank goodness I live in a country where we are still allowed to express our opinions, whether others agree with them or not. I believe I would classify you as "bias" and the "arse".
I have not taken a position on the Brewery or Mr Dale, or the post complaining about him, the rooms or the service.
I have not attacked anyone? Where did you get that? I am asking why these people come out of the woodwork.
On the otherside of the coin, I am always suspicious of people slamming a place when its their first post, which is also unfair. On many occasions I have emailed the business to get their side of the story, as their is always two sides to a story, as we all know. You would be surprised what the competition will do on these branches to make negative comments about a place they are competing with or a ex employee with a ax to grind, happens every few months, and we always smoke them out.
My issue with this entire thread is the fact a spokesperson makes comments about it all in defense, then after I try to get more info as to why, the truth comes out. Then like a bolt of lighting, you, and others, start speaking about how great the owner the place is, although all these NEW POSTERS have not contributed one ounce of travel advice on the TT Forum.
Whats funny is the fact few people go to (inquire) about this area of Honduras in the scheme of things, and read back on these post, had the post just been lleft alone, it would of been buried back in 100 post's from a month ago, instead, almost 700 people have now read about this place, and nobody has done Mr Dale any favors by posting in his defense, for all we know, they are all the same person (s).
Bias? No
Arse? Now thats a personal attack!
also, what about the Trip Advisor comments I posted on the LINK above...seems things have gone awry indeed.
My boyfriend and I stayed at the D&D Brewery last October. We loved it. We had just come from Tela and had driven through hurricane rains all day on our motorcycle. Upon arriving to D&D I was so thankful for the friendly staff and the gorgeous cabin we splurged on, specifically, to warm up in the Jacuzzi. After being in central america for 7 months, D&D Brewery was heaven. We stayed there for about 4 nights during a tropical depression, and I couldn't have asked for a better place to wait out a storm. Every night we had amazing meals (the corndogs were to die for) and it was so nice to have a real dark beer for a change. I guess since this online argument has to do with the staff, I should give my two cents. Friendly, that's the only way I could describe everyone. This includes Robert, his wife, and the staff. I never got the feeling that anyone was unhappy. Robert was awesome and showed us his bad ass collection of artifacts and played music with us in the evening. It was nothing but good vibes the entire time as we wasted our days moving our tent from the constant (but unavoidable during hurricane season) puddle, playing chess, eating great food, and drinking real Northwest beer. I met some amazing folks while staying at D&D and have kept in touch with them since ( which is how I found out about this absurd argument taking place). Malcom was only a bonus to our entire experience.....the best bird guide ever!!!! I hope to re-visit D&D again, and I hope is exactly the way it was last time I was there. It is obviously Robert Dales baby, he's the brewer from oregon, and to be honest, is the only reason we even considered going to the brewery in the first place. I live in the northwest, and to be able to enjoy some former northwest company and good beer after being on the road for half a year was unforgettable. Thank you Robert, for the memories.....I will return in the future only if you are the man brewing the beer, and entertaining us with some good ol folk music. And we still need to exchange some music on the computer!! :)
Wow, can you believe it, another first timer, one that spent 7 months in Centro America and just joined the LP TT Forum today, and they only have glowing reviews of the place, amazing. Yes, we know Mr Dale is asking all his old clients, to post reviews of his place, but who are you? How do we know your legit, you have no history here, so like the others, you have no credibility.
Gee MotoSouth, can you offer any other advice, tips or opinions on all the other places you stayed and ate? There are plenty of people asking for advice and help, so dont be so selfish and just plug this place and leave....come on, stick around, or are you leaving like posters #25 and #23?
SoloHobo
"My issue with this entire thread is the fact a spokesperson makes comments about it all in defense, then after I try to get more info as to why, the truth comes out"
I posted for Bob Dale/D&D Brewery, and prefaced my first post with that fact.
But I really believe that you have forgotten that this is a forum, isn't it? Why do new posters have no credibility?
I know through my many posts on "Baja Nomad" (I own a home in Loreto, Mexico) that folks surf sites specific to their travel interests and there are many, many "lurkers" who are finally compelled to post when they have relevant and true information about a given location. In this case, travellers who actually stayed with Bob Dale at his place.
Trust me, we are not all the same person, and I do not believe that these conversations have "turned into a nightmare for the brewery".
What I do believe is that Bob will soon return to his little garden of eden, brew a nice crisp porter ale, and play dobro and mandolin to his heart's content, and the delight of his many friends and clients.
Edited by: loretana
You are outright lying to imply that the posters that are new on this thread, found this Thread without the assistance of Mr Dale's or you and his friends.
They have no credibility because they have no history on this forum, so they might as well all be the same person, as we have no idea who they are, they joined only because they were told to make positive bias comments that were only positive, but offer no other advice on any thread on any region on the entire TT.
When people make negative remarks about a place, and they have been a member of the forum with posts going back on many subject, or were inquiring prior to travel, then report back to give advice, than we know its legit, but this flagrant abuse by you and your friends of the forum has only earned a worse reputation for Mr Dale, and the brewery.
Keep on trying Loretana, your fooling nobody, and in fact, maybe you should contribute to the Honduras threads for travel advice as well, or is your only interest this one thread here? Oh just so you know, if you didnt notice, there is no advertising, those post get deleted by the Moderators, which I alert them too, and they are removed. So dont come here and make post advertising your friends business, then you get banned from here.
The original comments about D&D Brewery were obviously correct, both about him, and the place itself, and it is what it is.
Again, these are more complaints.