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Dear All. On January 1, 2015, I flew from Boston, MA to Guatemala City on American Airlines. I had purchased a round-trip ticket returning to the U.S. at the end of June. I did all of my ticketing on the American Airlines website including choosing seats, checking in, and printing a boarding pass. The only thing that I needed to do at the airport was to check my two large suitcases.

When I got to the curbside baggage checker, he told me that my ticket was flagged because my stay was for more than 90 days. He asked for my “visa” which, of course, I did not have. This requirement came up on his computer even though nothing came up on the website when checked in on the previous evening.

After much arguing with a higher-up at the American Airlines counter, I was forced to purchase a one-way return ticket that was within the 90-day window. I had to pay full fare since I needed a ticket that I could cancel with a full refund. The ticket cost me over $800. I was fortunate to have a credit card with me with that much credit available.

The woman I spoke to told me that these things can change at any time and that the Guatemalan government could sue American Airlines for up to $20,000 for each passenger whom they allowed to enter without proof of return within 90 days. She advised me to keep the new return ticket on me in case Guatemalan customs asked for it. They never did ask.

I am sharing this as a warning to you and your friends since this could be an extremely inconvenient and expensive incident if you are not able to purchase a return ticket. I am also interested in hearing if anyone else has experienced this new change in policy.

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Why is this new?...you can only enter Guatemala as a tourist for a period of 90 days or less. Stays of more than 90 days require a visa. Airlines are required by law to ensure that their passengers comply with entry requirements of destination countries prior to boarding. Old hat....

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As a full time resident of Costa Rica all my airline ticket purchases are round trip originating in San Jose and returning to SJO. I would say five years ago is when some, not all, but some airlines, at check in, asked for my onward ticket from Costa Rica.(I have a US passport) This would be at the return leg of the trip and not just in the United States but in Colombia and Ecuador as well. The only way they (the airlines)will be satisfied without the return ticket is for one to produce your proof of legal residency, which fortunately I have for Costa Rica. The fact that the airlines are becoming more strict and more and more carriers are requiring the scenario you have described and perhaps Guatemala is becoming more strict also is just the way of the world. Legal residency or adhere to the visa requirements are the law to travel to or live in most countries. This is not new.

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and perhaps Guatemala is becoming more strict also is just the way of the world

Nope... that's not it. Guate wants more people to visit and makes it easy to stay for 180 days (or year round, really) if one so desires.

Perhaps this was flagged due to certain online... uh... comments? Just speculating here.

Have traveled to Guate twice on AA with a one-way ticket in the last year w/no problems. Maybe it's just the people up in Boston?

Just to be clear, stays of more than 90 days do not actually require a special visa... they simply require that the visa granted on arrival be extended (easy to do), or that the individual leave and return across a particular border. Who knows what the issue really is here, but I agree that it was unnecessary and should not have occurred.

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If your theory was true why does Guat not just extend its tourist stay to 180 days and inform the airlines?. Also, if you intend to stay for more than 90 days BEFORE you enter then you can't enter on as a tourist and need to apply for a visa. If once in the country as a tourist you wish to stay beyond 90 days then you apply for an extension. You can't extend a tourist visa before you arrive...

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Good question in the first sentence... just bureaucratic stuff I guess. I don't really understand what the second one says, but yes, you can enter as a tourist and just get 'er extended when the time comes. The bottom line is that the country is hungry for tourism or just foreigners coming to spend their sweet foreign booty in general, and makes it very easy for them to do so. I have never, ever heard of any cases of them denying people entry under any normal circumstances and have flown one-way into the country several times... I've also extended my visa in the immigration office and have seen first-hand that it's really just a clerical procedure. As we've seen time and time again, they're also pretty laid back about overstay fees. So the airline really was full of it in this case, as they often are. I strongly doubt they've ever been "sued" by Guate for any cases like these.

That said, considering OP's infamous forum rage towards AA, apart from being rather surprised that they fly with them at all, I'd pay good $ to have a video of the incident at that check-in counter.

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My second point was that you can ONLY extend a tourist visa once you are IN the country. You can't extend a tourist visa before you arrive- that would be full visa application. I know you think that this whole issue is an airline conspiracy to sell tickets- they hardly make much on the admin fee charged to cancel a ticket like this though do they?. We ALL know that immigration on arrival rarely check- the reason being that it is the job of the airlines to vet their passengers. We ALL know that plenty of people get away with it, including yourself and clearly breezer before. None of that changes the fact that countries set entry/visa regulations and airlines can be fined for failing to ensure that passengers comply...Its really quite simple.

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I hear you, but there's definitely a subtle distinction between "can be fined" and "are really never, ever fined, ever." It's kinda like the clause in the Mexican Constitution that says a foreigner can be deported for being "inconvenient." If that were the case, I think most of the TT crew would be out of country pretty quick.

If the airline being fined for this were actually a real possibility (and in Guatemala, it just isn't), you'd better believe that they would never let anyone on who didn't strictly comply... they know it's not going to happen though, which is why incidents above are uncommon. Most people fly 1-way w/no problem.

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BTW, the above is pretty clearly demonstrated by the reality in Costa Rica, and maybe Panama... in these cases, the airline knows the potential stakes and is serious about it.

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again, for those coming in late to this discussion: you can buy a $35 guate to Copan ruinas ticket online with Hedman Alas. As long as you have a ticket out of the country less than 90 days after you arrive, nobody's going to say anything.

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