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thanks for all the Info in this thread.

@fedrico: I will be in Uganda in October probably. Would be great if you could post (or PM) up to date info about the road to Kidepo. Havent booked flight yet, so chances are I'm going in late September too.

@ BooBoo: thanks for all the Info. how many days for the northern loop you did would be a reasonbale timeframe to plan with? Traveling without own car. andincluding some time at the park. I got 3 weeks in Uganda (with maybe a little side trip to Rwanda. Haven't made up my mind yet if its better to see the Gorillas over there or in Uganda)
From your Info here it seems the loop you did is pretty "straighforward" for that kind of area to travel in? Haven't been to Africa yet so its hard to compare for me.
With 3 Weeks in Uganda do you think including Kidepo would be a good Idea? Or is it too much?

cheers.

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I i my loop in 8-9 days. Even with the elays i had, I' say that was pretty quick. Things could have taken much longer on several of the legs, so I would give myself 10 days to be certain.

On your first time to Africa it might be a bit much. The southern and central parts of Uganda struck me for how incredibly easy they were to travel in. The north/northeast is like a different country in the regard, much more challenging, with no real traveler's infrastructure.

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hi booboo,

thanks!
"with no real traveler's infrastructure" rather gives me shining eyes than putting me off :-) you posts here give a pretty good idea what to expect and it sounds like my very idea of travelling and kidepo and the way up there gets more tempting everyday. but then your right as a first timer in africa its hard to predict.
i'm afraid time will be tje limiting factor here. so i decided to try to see the gorillas at the beginning of the trip and ask a bit around and see if i geth good feeling about the kidepo trip.
just had a look in the latest edition of Bradt guide uganda, who advices against the kidepo mblae leg of the journey because of banditry. had you ever a felling things could go seriously wrong on that section of your trip?

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(Using a keyboard where the "d" key is working this time)

I felt completely safe on that whole eastern leg of the trip, but it could be one of those things where I just got lucky; you always feel safe until something goes wrong.

If you decide to do it, I'd say getting your travel legs under you in the southwest, and then heading up north would be a good plan.

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back from Kidepo and it was the best part of my trip!!!! (BooBoo thanks for the info and inspiration! here's my experience:

Went there via Gulu and Kitgum. From Kitgum to Karenga by truck (15000UsH / 4 + hrs) got stuck for an hour in Karenga (from the kids reactions I reckon there are extremely seldom any outsiders) before somebody there found me a working motorbike and drove me to the local UWA baracks outside the Park. No UWA jeeps there, another hour waiting, luckily a big truck left for Apoka. All in all started 9:00 in Kitgum and arrived at around 5:00 pm in Apoka. Was the only tourist at the Apoka Camp at that day.

The Bradt Guide says you can make it in one day from Gulu with an early start there, probaly optimistic, wouldn't count on it especially if you haven't organised onward transport from Karenga; and trucks from Kitgum seem to leave usually only in the morning. when I was in Kitgum somebody offered me to take me all the way on a bike, but I would definitely go for the trucks.
Think it's not a bad idea to allow for things to go wrong. we got stopped just 4 km outside Karenga by a cop with (of course) an AK47. Either the guys on the truck where smuggling something into Sudan or hadn't paid duty on their cargo. they were a bit vague about it. The cop wanted us to drive back to Kitgum which really dampened my spirits. I wasn't allowed to just walk the 4km to Karenga either.... all in all it took us almost an hour to negotiate a bribe to carry on.

Kidepo was unbelieveable beautiful. They got food (chapati and rice and something). really basic. take something with you if you ned more choice. everybody nice and very helpful.

on the way out a ranger drove me to Karenga and there was a truck to Kitgum. Was running out of time so I couldn't make the eastern leg through Karamajong which I still regret so much!
Had only around 3,5 days left to reach my flight out of Entebbe and there was no truck to Kaboong that day and would have been pretty optimistic with that timeframe to try it.
I asked the rangers for the roads in the east anyway. they said no problems, ambushs whatsoever in 2010 and the last incident they heard of was an NGO car being shot at in 2009. So with a few more days left I would have felt safe and comfortable enough to take this route.

the second day I was in Apoka a spanish tourgroup flew in, staying at the UWA camp continuing by bus. Probably nothing to count on, but I reckon if you're lucky you could "hitch a lift" with a charter plane that flies back empty to Kampala. probably one every other week.

p.s. next to the Acholi Pride guesthouse in Kitgum there's a UWA office. they hadn't any cars going the day I showed up but seemed nice and helpful.

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I have some pics and descriptions of Kidepo on my blog:

[http://obtuseworks.blogspot.com/]

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thanks! great pics and stories.

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