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Hi, another itinerary question I'm afraid.

I will be going to Madagascar in April with my girlfriend. We will be travelling budget and because the flight there will be with Air Kenya we are a bit unsure of an itinerary. We will not be getting those much needed half price internal flights as we are not flying with Air Mad so were wondering if there was some kind of loop we could do beginning and ending in Tana.

Of the itineraries I've looked at, they all work away from Tana with an inevitable flight back. If this is the only way then we will have to fly the once. We have not booked our flights yet but will be in Madagascar for up to a month. I find the masoala peninsula particularly alluring but this seems like a hard task given it's isolation.

Does anyone have any suggestions for a good month or less itinerary with minimal flights?

We are open to suggestions on what to see. I would like to see a bit of rainforest and it would be nice to have a small amount of beach time. We are into less trodden paths and don't mind roughing it although my girlfriend is not a complete masochist. Obviously to keep costs low and give a bit of extra custom, I would like to see some of the less visited parks.

Thanks!

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Hello,
If you will fly with Air Kenya, you will not get a discount on internal flight so if you didn’t book yet your flight to Madagascar why not book with Air Madagascar.
April is the end of rain season in Madagascar and I think it’s not the best time to visit Masoala don’t forget it was on east coast it wet area, the best time to visit this park is on September and you have to fly to Maroantsetra then take a boat, the road after Sonierana Ivongo is very bad even by 4x4.
I don’t know how long you will spend your holiday in this country but if you have 2 weeks at least you can start drive to the east as Andasibe where you will find the largest lemur named “Indri Indri “ and others species, chameleon, birds,….then continue to Sonierana Ivongo where you will catch the boat to St Marie , relax on the beach there then back with same way extend your tour to Ranomafana it’s rainforest park too, you will spot variety of lemur there then continue to Isalo , relax at Anakao beach then back by car to Tana so you will not use the internal flight because anyway you have to pay your car back to Tana .
Good luck!!!
Anne

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Hi,

Given that you’re going to be there for up to a month, you’re not tied to the type of itinerary that needs a flight back to Tana. Get a decent guide book, like Bradt, decide what you want to see, and do it by taxi brousse.

Since you mention Masoala, I’ll give you a suggestion that will enable you to combine a visit there with a less usual itinerary. Masoala was the first place in Madagascar that I went to on my very first visit to the country many years ago, and it is not a “hard task” for anyone who is even half-way self reliant. However, as it’s portrayed as difficult in many sources, it remains a “less trodden path”.

First, with all due apologies to #1, I absolutely disagree with her opinion that April is “not the best time to visit Masoala.” On the contrary, it’s a very good time, as is almost any other month. Masoala is the wettest place in Madagascar and one of the wettest in the world. You can have both heavy rain and blazing sunshine at any time of year, and it makes no sense to say that any particular month is reliably better – or worse – than any other. In fact, the last two years, some of the “best” weather has been in February and March, which officially count as the rainy season, and when most people don’t go for fear of cyclones.

Whenever you go, you’d be unlucky to have continuous rain over several days (although it admittedly can happen). Much more likely are showers or periods of heavy rain interspersed with long bursts (often days) of sunshine.

Okay, getting there: Of course the quickest and easiest way is to fly, but as you have so much time, you could go by taxi brousse, which is an adventure in itself. Get a taxi brousse from Tana to Tamatave. A stop-off for a couple of days to visit Andasibe-Mantadia for the indri-indri and diademed sifaka is worthwhile – it’s on the road. If you do that, retrace your route from Andasibe to Moramanga to get your onward taxi brousse to Tamatave – stopping one on the road is difficult as they tend to be full.

In Tamatave, get a taxi brousse to Maroantsetra. They run three or four times a week. The “road” (trail would be a better word) north of Soanierana-Ivongo is in appalling condition (which is what makes the trip interesting), but the route is very beautiful. It’s worth paying extra and even waiting a couple of days to get seats in the front next to the driver, so you can enjoy it. Depending on the weather and the tides in the rivers, you’ll need between two and four days to reach Maroantsetra.

You should in fact break your journey in Mananara to visit Aye-Aye Island, where you’d be certain to see aye-ayes in a natural environment. With more effort you could also take in the little visited Mananara Nord National Park. For that, you’d need to break your journey at Sahasoa. If you do stop in Mananara, try to book your onward taxi brousse to Maroantsetra as soon as you arrive.

Once in Maroantsetra, visit Nosy Mangabe and stay overnight, and decide what you want to do. An ideal way to see the rainforest is to trek – four to six days – to Cap Est (not Antalaha – that trail is mainly outside the forest). You can organise both visits easily by going to the ANGAP/MNP office in town and engaging a guide. S/he will arrange with you things like supplies and porters – it won’t break the bank. An alternative trek is all the way round the peninsula, but for that you’d need well over a week.

You could also take in the main visitor’s trails, which are based down the peninsula at Tampolo and Ambodiforaha, where it’s easier to see the red-ruffed lemur, and which also have beautiful lonely beaches. Places to stay: the Tampolodge is directly by the beach, the Arollodge at Ambodiforaha is about 100 metres from the beach. The boat trip down there is pretty expensive (around €150 return is not unusual) unless you go most of the way by pirogue, which the guides generally don’t want to do.

To continue your itinerary: if you trek to Cap Est, get a taxi brousse from there to Antalaha and on to Sambava. If you don’t trek, fly to Antalaha or Sambava – it’s a short hop and so cheap enough. You’d need to book as soon as you can, though – do it in Tana or Tamatave, as the flights get full quickly.

From Sambava, you should visit Marojejy National Park, which like Masoala is a UNESCO World Natural Heritage Site, and where you can see among other animals the rare silky sifaka.

After Marojejy, return to Sambava, from where your itinerary would take you to Vohemar and from there to Daraina, where you can take an excursion to see the very rare golden crowned sifaka. After that, continue via Ambilobe to Antsiranana (Diego Suarez), where there are, among many other things to do and see, some good beach opportunities.

From Antsiranana, you can visit the national parks of Montagne d’Ambre and Ankarana (here you can see tsingy as well as wildlife).

Continuing south, you can cross from Ankify to Nosy Be for some beach time. Organise your time so that you cross in the morning. In the afternoon it will be unpleasant and possibly dangerous.

After that carry on south to Ankarafantsika National Park – unusual dry deciduous forest, baobab trees, plenty of birds and sifakas, a lake with water birds and crocodiles, a spectacular canyon with beautiful red rock formations.

From there go to Mahajanga – it’s a lively and interesting town, and an evening eating from stalls on the “corniche” by the river estuary is highly recommendable. Take a day or two-day trip across the estuary to Katsepy to enjoy a lonely beach. Chez Chabaud at Katsepy is a comfortable place to stay.

From Mahajanga, it’s back to Tana by taxi brousse.

You can do all of that without taking a single domestic flight, unless you decide not to trek from Maroantsetra – there are no roads north or west from there. You’ll visit some of the most beautiful parts of the country, and for much of the time, you’ll be on “less trodden paths”. If you have time, another excursion would be from Katsepy to Soalala, from where you can access the remote and little visited Baie de Baly National Park. However, transport is irregular, and you’d need to plan quite a bit of time to do this trip.

Taxi brousse is not the world’s most comfortable form of transport, but you don’t need to be a complete masochist.

Whatever you decide to do, you should enjoy Madagascar – it’s a great place.

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Wow, first of all thank you both for your extensive replies. The itinerary around the north does sound fantastic, is that really possible to do in a month given 5 days will be spent just driving to Maroantsetra? And providing we get transport pretty quick, especially given my French will be minimal.

It basically boils down to a choice of two things I think. Head east and north and continue going with the hope we will make it back or get a plane if we run out of time from Diego Suarez or wherever we are. Or the other itinerary I have been looking at is heading west from Antisirabe down the river to Morondava seeing the sights. Head back to Antisirabe and go south seeing the sights there then head back to Tana. Decisions, decisions.

If it was me on my own I know I would head to Masoala and do Cap Est trek for sure. I will have to talk to my girlfriend and see if she fancies roughing it.

I should've mentioned, the reason I am not going on Air Madagascar to get there is because we are also visiting East Africa and if I go with Air Kenya I can stop enroute to Nairobi for free!

Thanks for both of your opinions, I welcome anymore!

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Wow, first of all thank you both for your extensive replies. The itinerary around the north does sound fantastic, is that really possible to do in a month given 5 days will be spent just driving to Maroantsetra? And providing we get transport pretty quick, especially given my French will be minimal.

It basically boils down to a choice of two things I think. Head east and north and continue going with the hope we will make it back or get a plane if we run out of time from Diego Suarez or wherever we are. Or the other itinerary I have been looking at is heading west from Antisirabe down the river to Morondava seeing the sights. Head back to Antisirabe and go south seeing the sights there then head back to Tana. Decisions, decisions.

If it was me on my own I know I would head to Masoala and do Cap Est trek for sure. I will have to talk to my girlfriend and see if she fancies roughing it.

I should've mentioned, the reason I am not going on Air Madagascar to get there is because we are also visiting East Africa and if I go with Air Kenya I can stop enroute to Nairobi for free!

Thanks for both of your opinions, I welcome anymore!

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Hi again,

It should be doable, as most of the other places will not need as much time as Maroantsetra and Masoala. You can have quite a satisfactory visit to a national park with a one or two day stay. You can also be flexible and pick and choose among the locations that I mention. Also, as a final resort, you can break off the itinerary and fly back from a number of points (Antsiranana, Nosy Be, Mahajanga).

What I would advise you to do is take a good look at a guidebook (and for Madagascar, as many people on the forum have noted, Bradt is streets ahead of LP) and rank the locations according to your priorities.

It would probably be helpful if you mugged up on basic French, especially the numbers – prices, by the way are almost universally quoted in francs Malgaches when the speaker is using French, so divide by five to get the amount in ariary.

If your girlfriend needs firing up for the trip, you could try mentioning that my daughter was only thirteen when we trekked to Cap Est, and if a thirteen-year-old girl can do it…

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I have been looking through guide books. For me, Masoala easily looks the most interesting, plus I love the idea of seeing some aye ayes on aye aye island and nosy mangabe. There is something about low level rainforest extending onto the coast that I find incredibly beautiful.

But it is not all about me and I don't want to punish my girlfriend on a 4 day taxi brousse followed by a 5-8 day walk. A trip down the south I still find exciting, parks like Ramonafana do look beautiful (plus I get rainforest albeit at a different level) but I don't like the idea of mobbing a few lemurs with loads of other tourists.

I've been looking at the north as well and first thought about getting a flight to antsiranana and working our way down but that is £150 (180 euros or so). One thing I can't find much about is getting public transport there. First, is there a comfortable bus that goes all the way from Tana? Second, if not, what itinerary would you suggest if we travelled up there and back by taxi brousse taking in ankarafantsika, Nosy Be, ankarana and Montagne d'Ambre (and anything else recommended)? We would like to seperate the stops evenly for the journey going up there and coming back so there is no single massive leg of journey.

Andasibe-mantadia is a must and I would also like to see Ramonafana to try and find the golden bamboo lemur and the community Anja Reserve.

And if time is Andringitra worth it for a couple of days of walking?

I think I will have nailed pretty much as much info as possible on the whole island after researching the north and can make an informed decision with my girlfriend when shes back from work this weekend.

She laughed when I told her about your daughter doing the trek, but said that when she was 14, she walked up Mt Kinabalu easily but doesn't fancy it so much now. I told her that in our mid twenties we are in our very primes. I still have some convincing to do yet....

A couple of days walking here and there we both love and I'm planning to do Mt Elgon in Uganda with her but its the combo of up to 5 days of literally travelling in a sardine can taxi-brousse then walking through difficult rainforest, being constantly wet (I guess?) and camping that she doesn't fancy and I suppose I can't blame her.

I will be taking a tent though and carrying a meths stove I hope. That gives a little background onto what we are looking for I hope.

I am also researching the yatso tours flight from Mananara to Maroantsetra but have only found the info posted on this board. For 100,000 ariary it seems like a good deal though providing it is safe.

Many thanks!

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